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    Huh. I was all ready to move this thread about whether Yoda is sexy or not to the Sexuality subforum. Imagine my surprise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silently Honest View Post
    *Sigh*

    Pity.

    From what I understand an ENTP would shoot off on rant not to different from "What would happen if X Y'd to Z?" someone running on Ni might say the same thing but not to find out what would happen, because he already has an idea of what would happen. He'd ask to see if you knew what would happen.

    Also re-reading the OP makes me believe (yes, I'm changing my mind also) he's INTJ also. Whatever he is he's obviously very mature, using all of his functions at least moderatly.
    In other words, you believe his "openess" & suspension of judgement is merely a seeking for corroboration of his ideas, ergo INTJ.


    Quote Originally Posted by ThatsWhatHeSaid View Post
    He's a dominant male.
    Yes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ivy View Post
    Huh. I was all ready to move this thread about whether Yoda is sexy or not to the Sexuality subforum. Imagine my surprise.
    Meh. I can stay in the bounds of classification. I just chose a title which'd have more eyeballs, that's all. Throw in your two cents? You're an astute judge.

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    From the descriptions here he seems INxJ, very close on the T/F, but I'd lean toward INFJ if I had to nail it down.
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    Based on description and function testing...

    He's an Ni dominant (His test results looks awfully like mine )
    INTJ vs INFJ... hmmm I lean towards FJ.

    Remember you have to work against the stereotype for males... especially if he's a gentleman of old school... that can bias test responses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aelan
    Edit: Hang on, JIL - if it is a picture perfect description of you, why do you say INTJ and not INTP?
    Well, actually, I think I'm being quite the hypocrite as I'm not even sure of my own type. I've always tested as INTJ (even when I took my very first test years ago). Why do I doubt, then? For once, I'm not very ambitious, don't have a clear sense of what to do with my life, I'm quite the slacker, I never really make plans other than a general mental picture in my mind, etc. Despite this, anyone who knows me would say I'm quite an orderly person and not very impulsive. I'm also not comfortable with chaos, impulsiveness, uncertainty, not knowing what's going to happen, etc - I just don't tend to make plans myself. I would settle for INTX if I could, but the J/P dichotomy means the cognitive functions are totally reversed either way.

    This may sound ridiculous, but I've been going around for a long time now thinking about this constantly. I find it difficult to concentrate on anything else as my mind is always into this MBTI-mode, just churning out possibilities with no definite answers that will hold up to scrutiny, completely oblivious to my outside world. It really irritates me to no end not being able to definitely label myself. I need to know. I need a label I can call myself by. Just having a label (even though MBTI-classifications don't mean shit in the real world) would bring peace of mind and allow me to move on to other matters. I almost wish I'd never even heard of MBTI, as then I wouldn't have had these maddening questions on my mind.

    For your pleasure, I retook the cognitive assessment test. Ne and Te are pretty much equal as well as Ni and Ti (with a slight emphasiz on Ti). Fi is the strongest of the remaining functions (I'm quite idealistic - tertiary function INTJ?) with Fe being the weakest (Not comfortable showing emotion - inferior function INTP?). Si is slightly more emphasized than Se.

    The above really goes either way, depending on how you want to see it. My need for closure is what indicates INTJ, but my inability to reach a conclusion in this particular matter is what stays my hand. Somehow the INTP profile at INTP Central resonates with me (though I suspect this would be the case with all INT:s, and also because that particular profile was the most detailed I've ever read - no other INTJ profiles come anywhere near).

    Quote Originally Posted by aelan
    In other words, you believe his "openess" & suspension of judgement is merely a seeking for corroboration of his ideas, ergo INTJ.
    Again, exactly like me. It is hard to admit, but I am not really interested in finding out the truth, but rather in being right. After all, the truth is what we make it. Reality is irrelevant, a mere arena for proving ideas, and I think this would be the case with your friend also. Am I right in this?

    As I said, I have nothing except my own subjective opinion/intuition to go by (which I'm sure no one would find convincing, anyway). Your friend strikes me as a "cultivated" person, which in my experience isn't really the stereotypical image of the INTP but rather that of the INTJ.

    Damn it, this would have made a great "What's my Type?" thread opener. I apologize for spilling over my own concerns unto your thread like this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JILebedev View Post

    I apologize for spilling over my own concerns unto your thread like this.
    You write very well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JILebedev View Post
    I would settle for INTX if I could, but the J/P dichotomy means the cognitive functions are totally reversed either way.
    Only a problem if you believe in a strict order of the functions. (In which case most of us wouldn't be any type at all, just close to this or that type.) You can have INTPs with weak P and INTJs with weak J, why can't you have an INTX? It'd only mean exactly what your tests seem to indicate: That you have rather balanced Ti-Ni and Ne-Te.
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    Sounds INTJ to me, just not your average INTJ, if that makes any sense. Reminds me of myself only more mature. (Perhaps I too am maturing..)
    What a waste of life..

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    i'd say INTJ with no hesitation.

    the four INTJs i'm friends with are so different. the bitingly sarcastic run-you-over INTJ stereotype applies to only two of them. the other two are polite and peaceful. and one of them sounds a lot like the dude you described.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aelan View Post
    These are negative traits I've observed in him:

    Stubborn; overconfident at times; occasionally overlooks Se detail; resistant to group affiliation and strongly independent, yet feels lonely and distant; doesn't ask for help when needed; feels "different" from others; doesn't always vocalize thoughts out of experiential frustration and/or sympathy; enjoys systems sometimes more than people.

    As a child, learning came naturally, so he took it for granted. But he buckled down once he realised he had to earn a living.
    I suspected INTJ. But once I read this, I was more confident in that suspicion because not only do I have these traits, but I found it curious that you labeled most of them negative
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