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    Quote Originally Posted by Hotherym View Post
    --He's an introvert
    --He's extremely anxious, depersonalizes often, and becomes 'detached' or/and overwhelmed easily
    --He's been extremely timid and shy his whole life
    --He used to look at art constantly, forming a loose library of his favourites, as inspiration, on his computer
    --Related to that, he's done very skilled art himself
    --He's always done well at school, even without trying much at all
    --He's always loved to help people, and he'll often dangerously give himself and his attention, even to strangers
    --He places himself before anyone else, often to the point of neglecting his own needs
    --He's apparently always been very quiet, rigid, and aloof, even as a young child
    --He was very bossy as a child -- especially as a young child -- before becoming more insecure later on in life
    --Similarly, he'd always try to initiate, or push, his young peers into participating in activities, such as imaginative games, that he'd create
    --He seems mostly unable to build an internal value system on his own, and without his mother's guidance growing up, has started taking values from others, including tastes in music
    --He's often painfully romantic, gushing over romantic ideals and situations
    --He's DROWNING IN FANTASY, always daydreaming and going off on tangents of imagination which he rarely shares
    --He never asks for help-it's a shock when he does
    --His brain, he says, is constantly on the go -- reflecting, cycling through thoughts and feelings about other people, such as their background and life story
    --The above often can lead to neuroses; obsessive-compulsive thoughts and so-on
    --He buries emotions immediately, sometimes to have them explode when he's under stress
    --Sexually, he's held back, and often tends to be surprisingly more feminine than masculine, considering his rampant hairiness and heterosexuality--he loves foreplay
    --He's not much of a thinker; he can try, but he's often clouded by emotions
    Those bolded strike me as quite strongly NFP, and since you've indicated he's very much an introvert, then INFP.

    Are INFPs more susceptible to the effects of certain parental neglect?
    INFPs are quite sensitive to external negative criticism - and if he's been neglected/mildly abused, I think it would have a deeper impact on an INFP than some other types.

    You seem a little resistant against typing him INFP, though, despite his arguments - why is that? Anything you're spotting in him that might not come through so clearly here?

    You said you see Si and Fe in him.... INFPs are Fi Ne Si Te, so you could quite easily be seeing his tertiary function coming out.

    So then that leaves Fe.

    A combination of Ne and Fi (in ENFPs) often give off the impression of Fe, although it is more momentary than true Fe. I'm not sure if the INFP gives off a similar impression (seeing as they're using the same two functions), though.

    Fi, with it's strong internal compass, is often driven to help people, if that's what he values - are these strangers that he gives dangerously to obviously disadvantaged, or can it be just anyone?

    Yeah, I don't know if I'm going in circles or over what you've already thought of, but hopefully that might help a little?
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    Judging (5%) ---- Perceiving (95%)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatsWhatHeSaid View Post
    Moved from NY Idyllic.
    New York!

    Sweet!
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    Extraversion (52%) ---- Introversion (48%)
    Sensing (26%) ---- iNtuition (74%)
    Thinking (16%) ---- Feeling (84%)
    Judging (5%) ---- Perceiving (95%)

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    My twin brother is INFP, and well, they act quite similar... so I'll throw in my vote for INFP as well.
    What a waste of life..

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    This is me by the way. Har har.

    Fi, with it's strong internal compass, is often driven to help people, if that's what he values - are these strangers that he gives dangerously to obviously disadvantaged, or can it be just anyone?
    I tend to be weak to homeless people and such asking for money, and people who are in a tight spot asking for things. I generally wouldn't give in, but it would be really tough, and I found myself constantly apologizing when people asked for money. I've gotten stronger with that, though.

    I also tend to be a magnet for weird people. I think I come across as either easy to take advantage of, or just someone who pays attention to them, because it's not always asking for money. I seem to constantly have homeless people and crazies talking (or yelling) with me and hanging around. I think it's because most people tend to totally ignore them while I give them some kind of attention and caring.

    I personally think I match the description of INFPs, and I relate very well to the way their functions are described. I have a tough time really understanding how I work without influence, but best I can tell I do generally take things in with intuition and process them with internal feelings. What makes me co-dependent is that I often listen to adopted values of other people above my own feelings.

    I do definitely 'get' ISFJ though, especially with the way I become more rigid and tend to adopt other's values so readily and concretely. I just feel like I do that because of my insecurities and distrust with myself as opposed to a natural way of functioning.
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    Hahah, thanks, guys. I love the input. Hopefully he'll stop by and put in his two cents soon--he's been very busy.

    Oh, never mind, he beat me to it.

    You seem a little resistant against typing him INFP, though, despite his arguments - why is that? Anything you're spotting in him that might not come through so clearly here?
    BECAUSE I HATE INFP'S! No, really, I'm just hesitant to type him either way, so I didn't want him falling on something with conviction without first knowing. I provided argument against it so he'd consider in more depth how he functions in all areas.

    My mom was never typed and is now deceased, but I'm convinced she was an INFP. They share a lot in common, and she, too, had been neglected and abused (albeit more seriously). She had hardcore Fi and lots of Ne, whatever the case.

    I wanted to add that he has a hard time connecting to people, too. I once thought he was suffering from schizoidism, but he's not like that anymore. I've actually thought he was INTP in the past because of his cold detachment from emotions, but now he's an 'emotional fruitcake,' as I like to say. :D He's also quite 'in tune' with people's emotions, though he doesn't always know how to react to them.

    Damn it. WHY DO BRAINS BE COMPLEX?

    And, man, I should have put the thread in here to start with. I just figured it was by an INFJ for a probably INFP--DON'T HIT ME TOO HARD, GUYS.

    My twin brother is INFP, and well, they act quite similar... so I'll throw in my vote for INFP as well.
    I laughed. INTJ with INFP twin brother. My god, that's like some classic 'evil twin' scenario in the making, somehow; the mastermind villainous INTJ (I should know, my dad was typical) and his humanitarian do-gooder INFP twin brother.

    I also tend to be a magnet for weird people. I think I come across as either easy to take advantage of, or just someone who pays attention to them, because it's not always asking for money. I seem to constantly have homeless people and crazies talking (or yelling) with me and hanging around. I think it's because most people tend to totally ignore them while I give them some kind of attention and caring.
    I'm completely daft--I have no idea why I just remembered this so clearly after all this time: my mom used to attract crazies, too. Everywhere we lived, it got to the point that all the disabled, disadvantaged and generally disheveled types would learn that my mom was a very giving person. It got to the point where she'd have to hide when they came around.

    God, the stories. I'd repressed them all.

    Is that common with INFPs (or NFs in general)? For some reason I can't quite see even the most giving ISFJs having to deal with that. It strikes me as an NF problem. My friend's a mildly and ignorantly INFJ has an extremely similar problem. I'll have to tell her about this. :D

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    --He buries emotions immediately, sometimes to have them explode when he's under stress
    I don't think this is INFP trait necessarily. I don't tend to explode under stress, I get dictatorial. Here it is the INFJ who blows under stress.

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    Yeah, but after burying emotions? I explode under stress, which is every five minutes. The other two INFJs I know are like that, too. :D

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hotherym View Post
    Yeah, but after burying emotions? I explode under stress, which is every five minutes. The other two INFJs I know are like that, too.
    Oh there is the constant surface level bitching and venting, that's nonstop but that's just hot air. I am talking about the deeper content, the 9.0 on the ricter scale.

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    My god. I've been there. It isn't pretty and it leaves a trail of blood.

    Oh there is the constant surface level bitching and venting, that's nonstop but that's just hot air. I am talking about the deeper content, the 9.0 on the ricter scale.
    By that logic, you'd definitely think it'd work like volcanic forces; continuous venting allows the pressure to decrease. but if you listen closely to those harmonic tremors, they speak of imminent pyroclastic rage.

    Conclusion: INFJs may have less silica-rich emotions.

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    He seems to be a somewhat unhealthy INFJ. Due to your statement on how exceptionally eager he was at sharing his ideas with his peers (to the apparent point of bossiness) I first suspected that he was a socially anxious ENFJ, but your later statement on how he's always carried introverted tendencies makes me assume that he's a natural introvert rather than a shy extravert. Adult ENxx will often act far more introverted than their sensing counterparts because their presence was often shunned at a young age; your friend seems to carry the typical ENxJ qualities that would lead to that. His inabillity to form an internal value system sounds counter-evident of Fi so it'd be strange for him to be an INFP. That is, if I understand correctly, that you're referring to an internal moral value sytem as well when making this statement:

    He seems mostly unable to build an internal value system on his own, and without his mother's guidance growing up, has started taking values from others, including tastes in music
    Fi on the other hand is geared towards establishing an internal value system, both moral and otherwise:
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