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    based on this:
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    do u think u might be something different? are there any other types ur considering?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhimsyGirl View Post
    do u think u might be something different? are there any other types ur considering?
    Well, I was considering 9 (and possibly 2 or 4), as I am much different now, as I am now more laid-back/easy-going, accepting/uncritical, optimistic (well, just less pessimistic), nonchalant (about some things), adventurous (depends on what it is, though), even-tempered, and warm (I'm also not aggressive at all anymore; in fact, I'm the opposite), but I think this probably confirms 6 for me. It is too obvious. Plus, I still maintain a good deal of 6 traits (occasional anxiousness, loyalness, cautiousness, self-criticality, insecureness (low self-esteem), doubtfulness, and indecisiveness).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hazashin View Post
    Well, I was considering 9 (and possibly 2 or 4), as I am much different now, as I am now more laid-back/easy-going, accepting/uncritical, optimistic (well, just less pessimistic), nonchalant (about some things), adventurous (depends on what it is, though), even-tempered, and warm (I'm also not aggressive at all anymore; in fact, I'm the opposite), but I think this probably confirms 6 for me. It is too obvious. Plus, I still maintain a good deal of 6 traits (occasional anxiousness, loyalness, cautiousness, self-criticality, insecureness (low self-esteem), doubtfulness, and indecisiveness).
    well, the integration point of a 6 is 9, so you could be getting healthier! In terms of 2 or 4, those, i think, are the most common mistaken ones because they're all emotional and can have similar issues (codependent, fearful, social anxiety, feeling misunderstood, having hard time with people, etc.). read up more on the 6. the other type i was thinking was 4 (i think you seem too "aggressive" and "withdrawn" to be a true 2, but again, just my opinion...), esp with the feeling of being lonely, misunderstood, loner. but it's different motivations i think (idk exactly, b/c im kinda fuzzy on this myself). do u identify with a 4 more? i don't think i see much 9 in those evaluations lol...

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhimsyGirl View Post
    well, the integration point of a 6 is 9, so you could be getting healthier! In terms of 2 or 4, those, i think, are the most common mistaken ones because they're all emotional and can have similar issues (codependent, fearful, social anxiety, feeling misunderstood, having hard time with people, etc.). read up more on the 6. the other type i was thinking was 4 (i think you seem too "aggressive" and "withdrawn" to be a true 2, but again, just my opinion...), esp with the feeling of being lonely, misunderstood, loner. but it's different motivations i think (idk exactly, b/c im kinda fuzzy on this myself). do u identify with a 4 more? i don't think i see much 9 in those evaluations lol...
    Yeah, I feel ya. I was seriously reconsidering myself to be a 9 (as I considered myself a 6) because I don't have the hyper-vigilance, hyper-awareness, or overt anxiety that is often characteristic of a 6. Plus, I'm afraid of and dislike conflict (which is 9-ish). But, after I looked at this evaluation, it became clear to me that I was a 6 when I was child -- and below average to unhealthy one, at that. I just wanted to check with others to hear their opinions.

    As for 4, I actually originally had myself typed as that, but I realized that my motivation and fear was more 6-like than 4-like. While I like to be individualistic, it isn't my primary goal.

    Here's an explanation of the differences between the two types to see why. I have bolded stuff that I relate to, and crossed out stuff that I don't relate to:

    Misidentifying Fours and Sixes

    While there are real similarities between the two types, there are even more differences. The principal difference is that Sixes are usually extremely appealing and relate well to people; they have the ability to unconsciously engage the emotions of others so that others will like them and form secure relationships with them. Fours, in contrast, do not relate primarily to people but to their own inner emotional states. Fours take it for granted that they are alone in life, and find it difficult to form bonds with others—something that comes easily to Sixes. The psychic structures of the two types are also very different: Fours are true introverts, while Sixes are a blend of introversion and extroversion—true ambiverts who possess qualities of both orientations.

    Confusion arises between these types principally on the part of Sixes who think that they are Fours for two main reasons. First, some Sixes identify with the negative side of the Four (depression, inferiority, self-doubt, and hopelessness, for example) and think they must be Fours because they recognize similar traits in themselves. The difference lies in the motivations for these traits. For example, while all the types can become depressed, Fours do so because they are disappointed with themselves for having lost some opportunity to actualize themselves. They become depressed when they realize that in their search for self, they have gone down a blind alley and now must pay the price. Unhealthy, depressed Fours are essentially angry with themselves for bringing this on themselves or for allowing it to happen.

    By contrast, Sixes become depressed when they fear that they have done something to make their authority figure [friends/intimates] mad at them. Their depression is a response to their self-disparagement; it comes from the fear that the authority is angry with them and will punish them. Thus, the depression of Sixes is exogenous (coming from the outside) and can be relieved by a word of reassurance from the authority. This is not the case with Fours whose depression is endogenous (coming from the inside), a response to their self-accusations.

    Second, we have characterized the Four as The Individualist , and some Sixes who are artistic think that they therefore must be Fours. However, as noted above in the discussion of Fours and Nines, artistic talent is not the sole domain of Fours, so it is entirely possible for Sixes to be artists of one kind or another. Even so, there are important differences in the creative work produced by these two types.

    In general, Sixes tend to be performing artists, while Fours tend to be original creators. Sixes are more likely to be actors or musicians than poets and playwrights, more likely to perform the words or music of someone else than to create it themselves. Even those Sixes who are creative tend either to be traditionalists, creating within firmly established rules and styles, or they go to an extreme and become rebellious, reacting against traditionalism–such as rock stars and experimental novelists who purposely defy traditional forms. In either case, both tradition and reactions against it are an important aspect of their art. The themes typically found in the art of Sixes have to do with belonging, security, family, politics, country, and common values.

    Creative Fours, by contrast, are individualists who go their own way to explore their feelings and other subjective personal states. The artistic products of Fours are much less involved either with following a tradition or with reacting against it. Fours are less apt to use political or communal experiences as the subject matter for their work, choosing instead the movements of their own souls, their personal revelations, the darkness and light they discover in themselves as they become immersed in the creative process. By listening to their inner voices, even average Fours may speak to the universal person or fail to communicate to anyone, at least to their contemporaries. They may be ahead of their time not because they are trying to be rebellious or avant-garde, but because they develop their own forms to express their personal point of view. What is important to Fours is not the tradition but personal truth. Tradition is no more than a backdrop against which Fours play out their own personal dramas. Compare and contrast the personalities of Rudolf Nureyev and Peter Ilich Tchaikovsky (Fours) with those of Mikhail Baryshnikov and Johannes Brahms (Sixes) for further similarities and differences.
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    wow! i love descriptions of 4's because they're just so esoteric and abstract it's like does anyone truly relate to this IRL?? lol.
    so i think u've kinda just proved it to urself by highlighting very 6-like FUNDAMENTAL traits. the thing abt traditionalism, i think, is more a societal thing that it's just no longer valued in general (among ppl our age). also, that whole thing about "original" art vs. "performance" art, is not really a way to base ur type off of but kinda just a "fun fact." (both those types can NOT be artists, also, and not relate to either of those descriptions...) that's wat i would keep in mind when reading. i think the thing about 4's being "true introverts" who see themselves as fundamentally alone and different vs. the ambiversion of a 6 is really smart and a good way to tell....IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhimsyGirl View Post
    wow! i love descriptions of 4's because they're just so esoteric and abstract it's like does anyone truly relate to this IRL?? lol.
    I know, right?!? 4's are just so BA! It kinda makes me want to be one lol.

    so i think u've kinda just proved it to urself by highlighting very 6-like FUNDAMENTAL traits. the thing abt traditionalism, i think, is more a societal thing that it's just no longer valued in general (among ppl our age). also, that whole thing about "original" art vs. "performance" art, is not really a way to base ur type off of but kinda just a "fun fact." (both those types can NOT be artists, also, and not relate to either of those descriptions...) that's wat i would keep in mind when reading. i think the thing about 4's being "true introverts" who see themselves as fundamentally alone and different vs. the ambiversion of a 6 is really smart and a good way to tell....IMO.
    Well, actually, I relate a lot more to other descriptions of the 6 (as this was merely a description explaining the differences between 4 and 6). If you go to this thread, you can see what I'm like and how much I am 6-like: http://www.typologycentral.com/forum...ype-6-9-a.html
    MBTI: INFP
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    Tritype: 6-9-2
    Instinctual Variant: Sx/Sp
    Temperament: Pure Supine
    D&D Alignment: Neutral Good
    Political Stance: Solid Liberal
    Religious Views: Atheist

    Fi > Ne > Ti > Fe > Se > Si > Te > Ni

    "Forgiveness means letting go of the past." ~ Gerald Jampolsky
    "I am justice!" ~ Light Yagami, Death Note
    "The choices people make tell you a lot about a person, but the reasons [...] tell you even more." ~ Albus Dumbledore (paraphrased)

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