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    Default How would I figure out if I am Fi or Ni dom?

    Totally confused on both, and the descriptions and articles that I read are all confusing.

    Please help. =/

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    To put simply:

    Fi = making decisions and deciding worth based on how things make you feel, and being true to yourself and your values
    Ni = weird voodoo stuff that somehow gets you from point A to point Z without first going through the other 24 letters, a.k.a intuition/gut feelings

    I understand Fi pretty well, but admittedly Ni doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. I've never had an Ni "gut feeling" in my life, so I wouldn't know what it's like. My short Ni description I just gave probably isn't very good, it's just my attempt at trying to understand it. Have you seen this description?

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    Ni is just the intutive judging function. Basically you percieve things as an "intuitive" person would and then use that to make judgements about it.

    But you don't use Ni, BHS. You are Ne all the way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RevlisZero View Post
    To put simply:

    Fi = making decisions and deciding worth based on how things make you feel, and being true to yourself and your values
    Ni = weird voodoo stuff that somehow gets you from point A to point Z without first going through the other 24 letters, a.k.a intuition/gut feelings

    I understand Fi pretty well, but admittedly Ni doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. I've never had an Ni "gut feeling" in my life, so I wouldn't know what it's like. My short Ni description I just gave probably isn't very good, it's just my attempt at trying to understand it. Have you seen this description?


    I believe read that, but for some reason it makes more sense now.

    My issue is that what I could usually fine descriptions, but they usually make Ni seems so mysterious and Fi soo only about morals and values. For me I find value in the littlest of things someone giving me a rock, or a piece of dust and say that represent something my feelings about you (Hopefully nice feelings), then I'll probably never throw it out.

    I don't really think I'm all about my morals and value, but I do think I am pretty emotional about certain things and could base decisions on my feeling, I mean FeTi makes sense for me, just because I how I was as a child, but Idk. Do you have a link for a Fi and Fe?


    Quote Originally Posted by amerellis View Post
    Ni is just the intutive judging function. Basically you percieve things as an "intuitive" person would and then use that to make judgements about it.

    But you don't use Ni, BHS. You are Ne all the way.

    Okay, thank you for all your help I appreciate it.

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    No Ni is a perceiving function but it is turned inwards. The J comes from Fe or Te in the dominant or auxiliary role. Fe or Fi? Ne or Ni?

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    I can't seem to find a good Fi/Fe link to give you, but I can help explain the differences based on my own knowledge. Fe is basically other-focused feeling, and values derived from the opinions of others. Fe is more likely to conform to other viewpoints to promote harmony. Fi, on the other hand, is self-focused feeling with values derived from within, often disregarding the beliefs of others. Fi is generally nonconforming in order to promote authenticity, or being true to oneself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glycerine View Post
    No Ni is a perceiving function but it is turned inwards. The judging function comes from Fe or Te in the dominant or auxiliary role. Fe or Fi? Ne or Ni?
    you can have either your percieving functions (N/S) be dominant or auxillary and same goes for judging functions (F/T).
    Saying that Ni is intuitive percieving "turned inwards" is intriguing but I don't exactly get how that works. However, I think in a way I agree. Intoverted tends to mean introspective after all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amerellis View Post
    you can have either your percieving functions (N/S) be dominant or auxillary and same goes for judging functions (F/T).
    Saying that Ni is intuitive percieving "turned inwards" is intriguing but I do't exactly get how that works. Hoever, I think in a way I agree. Intoverted tends to mean introspective after all.
    Yes N/S=Perceiving functions (P). e=extraverted and i=introverted. So any type with a Pe function (Ne or Se) as one of their first two functions= P. F/T= judging functions (J). Any type with Je (Fe or Te) as one of their first two functions= J. To balance it out, Je types has Pi and Pe types have Ji. So J/P refers to whether a perceiving or judging function is extroverted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RevlisZero View Post
    Fi, on the other hand, is self-focused feeling with values derived from within, often disregarding the beliefs of others. Fi is generally nonconforming in order to promote authenticity, or being true to oneself.
    I'd agree with RevlisZero. I know Fi is often talked about in terms of morals and values…and it is to an extent. But I think it's more to do with knowing what you want. (My Fi doesn't always manifest in healthy ways so I definitely don't think about it in terms of morals!)

    On top of that, I've seen Fi-doms talk about understanding people as structures, almost. They talk about being in a room of people and knowing which way everyone is 'facing' in terms of feelings and attitudes. That's what judging functions do. They make judgements about the world around them. Ni-doms, so far as I can see, emphasise perceiving. I know Ni-doms who perceive so much they have trouble keeping up with things in the moment sometimes because there's just too much to process. They'll go away and make connections in their own time, in that case.

    ETA: Should add that those Fi-doms were INFPs.

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    Another thing I should add is that Fe (in dominant or auxiliary) will exhibit judging characteristics, while Fi will have perceiving characteristics. All J types judge with an extroverted function while all P types prefer introverted judging.

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