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    Yeah, could be ENTP Okay, let's take a different tact on this. I hear, and have noticed that ENTPs pride themselves at being really good at at least one thing. As an ENFP, mastry isn't my game, I'm just kinda good a whole lot of things. Where do you lie in that spectrum?

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    I doubt this is the same as your original type, but for type of origin I'm getting ISTP.
    You could send me a voice recording or something if you were interested in knowing what I would consider your original type to be.

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    @Qlip I'm very good at pretty much everything I take an interest in; I tend to master, or become really good at pretty much anything I want to. How much pride I take in my skill in an area depends on a) how much of an interest I take in it and b) how common the skill really is, though I'd rather be good at something than not.
    @amerellis ISTP? No, I'm definitely EN, that's for sure. How did you come up with that?
    @RevlisZero I checked the thread: it was pretty useful, though it seems like everyone came to the same conclusion I did; Fi and Ti are both used in very similar ways, and it's difficult to tell the difference. I liked the descriptions by Dr. J. H. van der Hoop; I'd say I think more like a Ti, but my emotional world is more Fi. I tend to get really philosophical, distrust emotional judgement over logic, and try to disregard emotions when making decisions, like a Ti user, but the description of an Fe user's emotional world described me a lot better in general, which is why I think it could actually be the function I'm using. The way I figure it, a person can, over time, change the way they think, but emotional patterns are much harder to control, and so are likely to be more honest. Also, I tend to be able to see how things make sense quite quickly, and so, a lot of my thoughts are directed toward giving things value; however, when something doesn't make sense, I immediately have to figure it out.

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    @Lord Guess I have unique theory about MBTI types, that everyone has three which may potentially be different: the one which their original type, their type of origin, and the type they test as. Check out my 3 Different Kinds of MBTI Types? thread to learn more.

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    Nothing in this world is black and white. Except the black text on a white page of a book.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zither Keys View Post
    Nothing in this world is black and white. Except the black text on a white page of a book.
    @Zither Keys What do you mean by that?
    @amerellis: I read through the thread, though I'm still confused as to both how you came to the conclusion, and what exactly it means... if you could explain it a bit, that'd be great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Guess View Post
    What do you mean by that?
    I'm taking (US) Law right now and my professor stated that the only thing that is black and white (an expression to mean "clear-cut") in Law is the pages of the Law book itself. I said that in the context that the OP doesn't have to be one or the other, he could be somewhere in between (gray area). And there's nothing wrong with that.

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    Oh, I see what you mean: normally, I'd agree, but in this case, it'd have to be one or the other. I have the characteristics of both, but since MBTI has to do more with what functions are being used in the thought process and in decision making, I would naturally have to be using one or the other, though Fi and Ti can manifest themselves in a similar way which makes it hard to tell the difference.

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    I've taken several MBTI tests to confirm that I really was an INTJ, and one of them stated that I was 50% Sensing and 50% Intuitive. Now on all the other ones, it was pretty clear that I was more on the Intuitive side. Maybe this was a less reliable test :/

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    Maybe: it might also just have to do with the way they asked the questions. The tests aren't completely reliable, though, since they depend on you answering the questions about yourself completely, 100% truthfully, which might not happen if you're expecting a specific result, which can subconsciously affect your answers, or if you're a little bit clouded in your self-judgement (which applies to pretty much everyone). For example, I used to test as ENTJ on most of the tests, since when it's for an important reason, I like to make sure I have a plan in place, and I like to keep things on schedule. However, the style I prefer to use is definitely P, not J: once I realized that, I started testing as a high P. That's why I don't trust my test results, which usually come out as ENTP, because I don't know whether or not I'm using Fi or Ti to make decisions. Plus, I've heard that ENFP men tend to seem like ENTPs because T tends to be valued in men more than F, and so, they become conditioned into acting like that.

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