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Am I 5w6 or 6w5?

darude11

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Hello! I just have this problem for some time. I can't find out, if I am more 5ish or 6ish. Please, ask me something to find it out. Thanks for help!
 

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Hello, darude11! Let's see if I can help. I'm not going to ask you whether you're more concerned about knowledge and competence or security, because likely you're concerned about both if whatever type you're not is going to be your wing and will still have influence. It seems to me that the main difference difference between a 5w6 and a 6w5 is how one reacts under stress. 5's tend to withdraw and want to get away from people to deal with their problems on their own, while 6's do the opposite by seeking out support from others. Based on this, which type do you relate to more?
 

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If I am under stress, I usually try to solve it by myself first. If I fail (or if I am lazy), I tend to ask somebody to help me (of course if it is socially acceptable... if it is not, I will rather try to solve it by myself, no matter how complicated it is). If anybody I ask won't help me, I fall into depression from solving something for first time. I know that it might sound stupid, and that you have to solve every problem for first time by yourself, but... but if it causes so much stress, it is probably not so easily-solved problem.

Thank you for helping me! :)
 
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Also, it's the inverse for when both types grow positively. 5 assert themselves (8) while 6s go more with the flow/become calm (9).
 

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Well, this doesn't help me that much. Even if I would be 6, I can misunderstand it, because my second type is 9.
My full tritype: XwY (X and Y are 5 and 6, trying to find out which is which) 9w1 2w1 SO/SP/SX
Yeh, and I never met 8 (or at least typed)
 

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Riso's Personality Types, p. 254 - "The general orientation of Sixes is toward affiliation with others, while the orientation of Fives is toward detachment from people so they can avoid being influenced by anyone. Sixes and Fives are both looking for safety, but Sixes look to alliances with others and commitment to systems of thought for security, while Fives tend to retreat from others and to tinker with, or even dismantle, established systems of thought."
 
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Well, this doesn't help me that much. Even if I would be 6, I can misunderstand it, because my second type is 9.
My full tritype: XwY (X and Y are 5 and 6, trying to find out which is which) 9w1 2w1 SO/SP/SX
Yeh, and I never met 8 (or at least typed)

I was commenting on points of integration for both types. When 5 are really healthy and not stressed, they will implement their thoughts/analysis into actions and assert necessary boundaries to get things done in the external world as opposed to withdrawing and staying disengaged from the world in "analysis paralysis". They look like a healthy 8. Healthy 6s become more confident in their inner authority, trusting, and become more relaxed about their anxieties like a healthy 9. Sorry if that does not help. :p
 
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Well, this doesn't help me that much. Even if I would be 6, I can misunderstand it, because my second type is 9.
My full tritype: XwY (X and Y are 5 and 6, trying to find out which is which) 9w1 2w1 SO/SP/SX
Yeh, and I never met 8 (or at least typed)

I was commenting on points of integration for both types. When 5 are really healthy and not stressed, they will implement their thoughts/analysis into actions and assert necessary boundaries to get things done in the external world as opposed to withdrawing and staying disengaged from the world in "analysis paralysis". They look like a healthy 8. Healthy 6s become more confident in their inner authority, trusting, and become more relaxed about their anxieties like a healthy 9. Sorry if that does not help. :p
 

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I have already checked levels of development, and if I would have to determine my level, it would be 3. I really am able to master anything, that is interesting enough. Actually I am mastering Enneagram. Then, there is MBTI, and kinda Electrotechnics (for Minecraft).

All right, time to write comparasions, I have been thinking so much about for last week.

Why I am 5:
- I can clearly determine my level of development
- I am in my free time looking instead of porn on sites of style "manipulation techniques". (the 2-5-8 triad, "power-seeking triad")
- Low dopamine (see this site), I have the least stamina in third class in a row.
- I don't think about world that it is bad. If I ever tought it, it would better mean "spoil", and it is not that forever. It became spoiled.

Why I am 6:
- I am not the "bravest warrior". If I ever was, it was the dumbest thing I could have done, and I am embarassed because of it.
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. . . only argument I have came to.
 

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I have already checked levels of development, and if I would have to determine my level, it would be 3. I really am able to master anything, that is interesting enough. Actually I am mastering Enneagram. Then, there is MBTI, and kinda Electrotechnics (for Minecraft).

All right, time to write comparasions, I have been thinking so much about for last week.

Why I am 5:
- I can clearly determine my level of development
- I am in my free time looking instead of porn on sites of style "manipulation techniques". (the 2-5-8 triad, "power-seeking triad")
- Low dopamine (see this site), I have the least stamina in third class in a row.
- I don't think about world that it is bad. If I ever tought it, it would better mean "spoil", and it is not that forever. It became spoiled.

Why I am 6:
- I am not the "bravest warrior". If I ever was, it was the dumbest thing I could have done, and I am embarassed because of it.
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. . . only argument I have came to.

I don't think any of those reasons really have anything to do with those types. I'm a five and I can't clearly determine my level of development. I seem to be floating around off-chart somewhere between levels. And I seriously doubt that everyone who's not a five is looking at porn, and most likely there are some fives who are. Low stamina/energy would point to Sx last, but not 5. And not thinking the world is bad has nothing to do with your type; it has more to do with being at a healthy level. Also, cowardice doesn't necessarily make you a 6.

The types are about what drives you: your basic desire and fear. They're also about how you grow and how you act under stress. Here's another thing to consider: fives suppress their emotions while sixes are considered "turbulent", meaning they make no effort to suppress or control their emotions.
 

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Well, this depends alot from situation. If it is serious one (work), I am suppressing my emotions even if I am supposed to laugh on something. I mean - deadly serious.
If it is, however, between friends, I laugh.

But now I am thinking, if I do have any friends. Is it possible for true friend to not contact me in a month?

And this everything was based on other triads of Enneagram. See link http://theenneagram.blogspot.com/2007/08/scientific-proof-for-enneagram.html

/EDIT I posted site because I tought I haven't before.

Also, I do suppress my anger/hatred. You know it. "Soon. Yes, soon." behaviour. If I really am angry, it was "last ripple" in glass of anger. But this happens really rarely. Last time it happened... maybe half of year ago? I don't really know. Does this count as emotion suppress?

//EDIT2 I just looked at basic fears. What can I say? Mine basic fear is to not be prepared on the worst, soo... probably combination of 5 and 6.
 

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Interesting link, I haven't seen that before. Actually, have you considered you might be type 9? You kind of seem like one to me. Suppressing anger and exploding on few rare occasions is especially 9.
 

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Interesting link, I haven't seen that before. Actually, have you considered you might be type 9? You kind of seem like one to me. Suppressing anger and exploding on few rare occasions is especially 9.

My second personality (from tritype, of course) is 9w1.
 

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But how do you know it's not your first type? Anyways, either way we still have to figure out the rest of your tritype, 5w6 or 6w5.

Yes. I know it because I have took the test. On PerC. I think it is true that mine primary type is not 9w1. (By the way, the test results said that I am 6w5 9w1 2w1, those results are reason for this thread.) I don't feel like guts triad personality. Those are (with no offense) thinking only when they say to themselves so. I am thinking always. Day and night. Problems with sleeping. Etc.
 

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Another thing: 5's are withdrawn and detached at average/unhealthy levels, and grow by becoming more confident and active, while 6's distract themselves with action at average/unhealthy levels, and grow by becoming calmer and more trusting.
 

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Yes. I know it because I have took the test. On PerC. I think it is true that mine primary type is not 9w1. (By the way, the test results said that I am 6w5 9w1 2w1, those results are reason for this thread.) I don't feel like guts triad personality. Those are (with no offense) thinking only when they say to themselves so. I am thinking always. Day and night. Problems with sleeping. Etc.

Don't base your type on a test. The only way to determine your type is through research and analysis, as well as observation of your own behavior, thoughts, and feelings.
 

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Yes. I know it because I have took the test. On PerC. I think it is true that mine primary type is not 9w1. (By the way, the test results said that I am 6w5 9w1 2w1, those results are reason for this thread.) I don't feel like guts triad personality. Those are (with no offense) thinking only when they say to themselves so. I am thinking always. Day and night. Problems with sleeping. Etc.

Oh, and 9's could actually be considered the type least in touch with their instincts, despite being in the instinctive/gut triad. Problems with sleeping could point to type 5, since they tend to have a lot of nervous energy that can build up and lead to insomnia.
 

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Well... the trust is thing I had problem with when I was child. Trusting others. First, I have trusted anybody. Then, I haven't trusted anybody (even myself). And now, I do consider, if it is trustworth person or not. But often it isn't.
Active, active... you mean active, like, on forums like this? If yes, then I became more active. I had never checked forums everyday.

Calm and confident - I didn't mentioned those, because I don't see difference here. Calm I am, and about confident... well, not so much.

Withdrawn and detached... Yes, I think I have experienced this in my childhood. It was 6th-9th grade, when I had (almost) no friends at school, and was happy as hell when arrived home. Just kidding, I was depressive even home. When at school, I was just lying on the desk, doing nothing, but waiting, when I will escape from hell (or staring on clocks). Now (on High school) I have no time to just stare at clock, because people want to use me. I am really glad when I can help (2w1), but sometimes I refuse any help. I have no problem with cheating on tests (even tough I have 2 times wing 1 at tritype, maybe because 1 itself is not present in my tritype), because everybody cheats. Yeah, and when somebody (anybody) spoke on me, I ignored him/her, because I knew it will be something dirty (you know, dirty talks). And after dirty talks there was always that cruel group laugh.
Traumatic, huh? I have permanent state of depression now, because of ruined childhood at school, no success at getting girl, and having no goal at life. No reason to live. Just waiting until it will end.
 
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