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  1. #11
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    I do remember the very, VERY first test I ever took gave me ENFP.

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    It's supposed to take effort to find your type. Jung actually diagnosed people, one on one, in his office. The more reading and study I've done, the more I trust the opinions of people who have also read and studied the cognitive functions vs. people in general, or silly Internet quizzes.

    See...if you're going to go by Keirsey...you're going to embrace a very simplified version of type. But it has little to nothing to do with Jungian type theory. Like really, Keirsey didn't get it. You CANNOT be INFx or ESTx. It's impossible and improbable. There is no borderline Judging and Perceiving. There is the dom function, the generic manifestation of that dom function (T or F, for example) then the conflicting inferior. J/P is determined by that dom function.

    And it's okay to keep questioning it the more you understand function theory. I don't think I FULLY got the difference between Se and Ne until last night, when an INFP (actually 2) showed me the difference in their perception of something as simple as a photograph.

    Some people only know for sure their judging functions (like yes! I'm Te/Fi or Fe/Ti) or that they are an absolute introvert or extrovert.

    Neuroses of the inferior come into play strongly in the Jungian function theory, and sometimes people have so many misconceptions that they don't understand that they are what they are.

    Like me:

    I thought I was an introvert because I don't ALWAYS want to be around people. But I'm very expressive. And what is more, I'm easily bored. If I have to wait, I HAVE to engage with the outer world in some way, I stand up in restaurants to look at pictures on the wall, grab meaningless pamphlets to read...it's ridiculous how extroverted I am, and I didn't even realize it, because I thought that meant I had to be some super needy person who wanted to be around a bunch of people ALWAYS. Or that I had to LOVE ALL PEOPLE. I can barely sit still. I have to get up and walk around. I do two or three things at once if I'm not sleepy or tired. I want to be engaged with the world.

    Also, I thought since I'm SMRT and like BOOKS and ANALYZING STUFF I HAD TO BE AN N.

    But I really think I'm an xSFP now, like really really, like whoa why didn't I realize this sooner.

    Yet it was because of my own lack of understanding, that's all.

  3. #13
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    I say again that you've always seemed very ENTP from where I sit. but I could also buy INTP since I-E can be difficult to pinpoint via an online medium.

    i don't get a TJ vibe from you, and I think we've had some fun Ne interactions.

    My assessment is: low e, med n, low-med t, high p. (only a p would be this confused as to type. )

  4. #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmie Dearest View Post
    It's supposed to take effort to find your type. Jung actually diagnosed people, one on one, in his office. The more reading and study I've done, the more I trust the opinions of people who have also read and studied the cognitive functions vs. people in general, or silly Internet quizzes.

    See...if you're going to go by Keirsey...you're going to embrace a very simplified version of type. But it has little to nothing to do with Jungian type theory. Like really, Keirsey didn't get it. You CANNOT be INFx or ESTx. It's impossible and improbable. There is no borderline Judging and Perceiving. There is the dom function, the generic manifestation of that dom function (T or F, for example) then the conflicting inferior. J/P is determined by that dom function.

    And it's okay to keep questioning it the more you understand function theory. I don't think I FULLY got the difference between Se and Ne until last night, when an INFP (actually 2) showed me the difference in their perception of something as simple as a photograph.

    Some people only know for sure their judging functions (like yes! I'm Te/Fi or Fe/Ti) or that they are an absolute introvert or extrovert.

    Neuroses of the inferior come into play strongly in the Jungian function theory, and sometimes people have so many misconceptions that they don't understand that they are what they are.

    Like me:

    I thought I was an introvert because I don't ALWAYS want to be around people. But I'm very expressive. And what is more, I'm easily bored. If I have to wait, I HAVE to engage with the outer world in some way, I stand up in restaurants to look at pictures on the wall, grab meaningless pamphlets to read...it's ridiculous how extroverted I am, and I didn't even realize it, because I thought that meant I had to be some super needy person who wanted to be around a bunch of people ALWAYS. Or that I had to LOVE ALL PEOPLE. I can barely sit still. I have to get up and walk around. I do two or three things at once if I'm not sleepy or tired. I want to be engaged with the world.

    Also, I thought since I'm SMRT and like BOOKS and ANALYZING STUFF I HAD TO BE AN N.

    But I really think I'm an xSFP now, like really really, like whoa why didn't I realize this sooner.

    Yet it was because of my own lack of understanding, that's all.
    I hate the fact that I was introduced to Keirsey when I first began my search because all it did was fill me stereotypes, that I'll admit, got me extremely interested in the system, but damn it's messed with me on a very deep level because I search for those answers, I have been for years now, and I find them, but then a stupid ass stereotype pops its head up and is like "HAHAHA! I'm gonna mess you up!"... And it does, it indeed follows through. I'm going to say I'm an ENxP... That's what all the tests tell me.

    I know it's suppose to take years, but I thought myself more introspective and understanding of myself than I realized I was, which is another thing that is quite disappointing. It is comforting to know that I can still search. My fear is that I annoy the Hell out of everyone around me. Not saying I don't, but this is literally the only interesting thing I have to think about and THAT is why I feel the way I do... Don't know what it is, but nothing else is half as exciting as figuring myself out! Narcissistic tendency, much!

    I agree with you all the way!

    Quote Originally Posted by Saturned View Post
    I say again that you've always seemed very ENTP from where I sit. but I could also buy INTP since I-E can be difficult to pinpoint via an online medium.

    i don't get a TJ vibe from you, and I think we've had some fun Ne interactions.

    My assessment is: low e, med n, low-med t, high p. (only a p would be this confused as to type. )
    Assessment processing..........Valid
    Downloading.........................Complete
    Installing............................... Virus' everywhere!!!! (@Saturned!!!!! *shakes palm at sky*)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ReflecTcelfeR View Post
    I hate the fact that I was introduced to Keirsey when I first began my search because all it did was fill me stereotypes, that I'll admit, got me extremely interested in the system, but damn it's messed with me on a very deep level because I search for those answers, I have been for years now, and I find them, but then a stupid ass stereotype pops its head up and is like "HAHAHA! I'm gonna mess you up!"... And it does, it indeed follows through. I'm going to say I'm an ENxP... That's what all the tests tell me.

    I know it's suppose to take years, but I thought myself more introspective and understanding of myself than I realized I was, which is another thing that is quite disappointing. It is comforting to know that I can still search. My fear is that I annoy the Hell out of everyone around me. Not saying I don't, but this is literally the only interesting thing I have to think about and THAT is why I feel the way I do... Don't know what it is, but nothing else is half as exciting as figuring myself out! Narcissistic tendency, much!

    I agree with you all the way!



    Assessment processing..........Valid
    Downloading.........................Complete
    Installing............................... Virus' everywhere!!!! (@Saturned!!!!! *shakes palm at sky*)
    Haha!

    A saturned virus looks like this: cute avatars, saying the word cute, liking ponies, wanting to bathe in glitter.... I'm really sorry, bud, but you're in for a rough night!

    I will also state that you come off as more Fe to me than Fi. I dunno.... I just get the impression I could toss you onto my pile of ENTP friends and not be able to tell any of you apart. (which is a good thing because they are all super awesome!)

    I buy you as an ENTP before I would buy you as an ENFP. (also because I know ENTPs are $30/dozen.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saturned View Post
    Haha!

    A saturned virus looks like this: cute avatars, saying the word cute, liking ponies, wanting to bathe in glitter.... I'm really sorry, bud, but you're in for a rough night!

    I will also state that you come off as more Fe to me than Fi. I dunno.... I just get the impression I could toss you onto my pile of ENTP friends and not be able to tell any of you apart. (which is a good thing because they are all super awesome!)

    I buy you as an ENTP before I would buy you as an ENFP. (also because I know ENTPs are $30/dozen.)
    We've got different definitions of "rough"

    It's gotta be here somewhere! *Begins fervently digging, muttering to himself* AHA! Found it F.....e... Dammit. Hey, I'm not that cheap, am I

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    Have You done the enneagram test?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saturned View Post
    Have You done the enneagram test?
    And the switch was flipped.

    I have. I think the most common type I get is 3w4.

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    I've never seen you like this. Did you roll off the wrong side of the bed and hit the floor?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nerd Girl View Post
    I've never seen you like this. Did you roll off the wrong side of the bed and hit the floor?
    It's my way of saying "Hey guys... I've got something to tell you. *motions to come closer*.... I'm NE DOMINANT."

    Just so that I cover my bases... Is this a good thing you are seeing... Or just different?

    This is what happens when I don't sensor myself... And the primary reason why I sensor myself 95% of the time... Sowwy.

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