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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    please explain
    ENTJ demands achievements they do not have to define 'sophistication' as an arbitrary set of skills like a trophy one can earn and keep on their mantle.


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    looking back at the title of this thread, I don't see how I could possibly be an SJ. wow this was a retarded thread idea lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    please explain
    Because even if you posture as someone elegant, you won't be able to fake it through conversations with truly sophsticated people if you don't know anything about the subjects they tend to speak about, or just blurt out some bullshit while appearing "elegant". Maybe you'll feel like they accept you but they'll be laughing at you when you're not there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    please explain
    Because even if you posture as someone elegant, you won't be able to fake it through conversations with truly sophsticated people if you don't know anything about the subjects they tend to speak about, or just blurt out some bullshit while appearing "elegant". Maybe you'll feel like they accept you but they'll be laughing at you when you're not there.
    ENTj 7-3-8 sx/sp

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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG View Post
    Because even if you posture as someone elegant, you won't be able to fake it through conversations with truly sophsticated people if you don't know anything about the subjects they tend to speak about, or just blurt out some bullshit while appearing "elegant". Maybe you'll feel like they accept you but they'll be laughing at you when you're not there.
    I don't fake through conversations. that's like a chicken trying to sneak past a fox. I talk about things I know about. if they know more than me, I listen more than talk. for instance, I do know a fair amount about tea, but I would not try to bullshit my way through talking to a tea master. mostly I would ask for his opinions and ask if he had any tea of extraordinary quality he could make for us. sophisticated people don't brand you as "unsophisticated" because you don't know about something, they explain it to you, that is if you're willing to listen (of course, this doesn't mean you always have to agree with them, I often disagree intially but end up agreeing after they explain)
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    Btw, I'm just toying with you. It's not like I truly care about this issue. It just seems kinda funny how you created this weird image of yourself in your mind.

    ENTJ demands achievements they do not have to define 'sophistication' as an arbitrary set of skills like a trophy one can earn and keep on their mantle.
    Yep.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG View Post
    Btw, I'm just toying with you. It's not like I truly care about this issue. It just seems kinda funny how you created this weird image of yourself in your mind.
    Yep.
    it's kind of a combination of being ENFP, w4 and having an entrepreneurial personality. I read somewhere that entrepreneurs go through a sort of "open minded dillusional" stage when first starting out where they lack experience and information, yet still have a sense of very high confidence and grand vision that is disproportional to their skill level. however, it's not an arrogant kind of dillusion because they're still open minded and actively seeking new information to build their understanding of business and find our where they're wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG View Post
    Btw, I'm just toying with you. It's not like I truly care about this issue. It just seems kinda funny how you created this weird image of yourself in your mind.
    Yep.
    it's kind of a combination of being ENFP, w4 and having an entrepreneurial personality. I read somewhere that entrepreneurs go through a sort of "open minded dillusional" stage when first starting out where they lack experience and information, yet still have a sense of very high confidence and grand vision that is disproportional to their skill level. however, it's not an arrogant kind of dillusion because they're still open minded and actively seeking new information to build their understanding of business and find our where they're wrong.
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    You know, now that I think about it, I think I have some useful information for typing me. Remember that girl I was talking about earlier? Well, you see, I kinda have an obsessive personality, as with just about anything that piques my interest, and I've liked her (or had an obsession with, rather) for a little over a year now. The girl I liked (or had an obsession over) last I liked for four and half years until I realized I didn't like her for who she truly was. But there for a while, like, 6 months (no, actually, it was until March of this year), with this girl, I was head-over-heals for. I had some sort of mini bipolar disorder going on where I alternated between being completely elated and being the lowest of the low. She was the most meaningful thing in my life (in fact, she may even be now, but I haven't been thinking about her lately because I decided to try to wait out on her breaking up with her boyfriend whom she has been with since I started liking her (see how well that is turning out >_>)), and it was interfering with my daily life. It consumed me. And when my friends tried to convince me that there are other girls out there who are just as good, if not better, than her and to let her go, I didn't listen. I was stubborn. I wouldn't believe I would find someone I liked better (I don't know if it was me not wanting to try to find someone else, since I'm already aware of her and how I like her). In fact, I still feel this way, though I've gotten over my obsessive stump (for now, anyway).

    Anyway, would this be an indication of Si?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hazashin View Post
    You know, now that I think about it, I think I have some useful information for typing me. Remember that girl I was talking about earlier? Well, you see, I kinda have an obsessive personality, as with just about anything that piques my interest, and I've liked her (or had an obsession with, rather) for a little over a year now. The girl I liked (or had an obsession over) last I liked for four and half years until I realized I didn't like her for who she truly was. But there for a while, like, 6 months (no, actually, it was until March of this year), with this girl, I was head-over-heals for. I had some sort of mini bipolar disorder going on where I alternated between being completely elated and being the lowest of the low. She was the most meaningful thing in my life (in fact, she may even be now, but I haven't been thinking about her lately because I decided to try to wait out on her breaking up with her boyfriend whom she has been with since I started liking her (see how well that is turning out >_>)), and it was interfering with my daily life. It consumed me. And when my friends tried to convince me that there are other girls out there who are just as good, if not better, than her and to let her go, I didn't listen. I was stubborn. I wouldn't believe I would find someone I liked better (I don't know if it was me not wanting to try to find someone else, since I'm already aware of her and how I like her). In fact, I still feel this way, though I've gotten over my obsessive stump (for now, anyway).

    Anyway, would this be an indication of Si?
    based on this information, I think it's very unlikely your Sp/So, more like Sx/So.
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