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    Default SO/SX vs. SX/SO?

    Soooo yeah, I'm another one on the border line. I asked Speed Gavroooooche what the difference was. In replying, I realized this would make a better "type me" thread than a visitor message.

    This is what he typed:

    • SO/SX The word "fantastical" comes to mind. Lots of virtuosity and trills, and often removed from the real world. One is whirled away by the dazzling fairies of their colorful imagination. Can be too rich in imagery for their own good. Sustained dramatic power due to their knowledge of interpersonal dynamics.
    • bright and charming politician, focused, sexaholic, but still come across as "socially soft'. Work like a light wich illumines and clean the room around with their energy.


    • SX/SO My impression of their writing is "fire-and-ice", as if one is to experience the extremes of heat and coldness at the same time. Often abstract, spilling one inner vision after another like a dream-sequence. Seems particularly in touch with the core meaning of life and death.
    • more in their own head, more like a lone force wich wants to take you, form a team, and manipulate crowds. Enter like storm, a thunder and perfore the screen.


    • P.S: Christina Aguilera is 3w4 Sx/Sp
    • Bill Clinton: ESFP Cher: ISFP Christina: ISTP
    I'm a 3w4, btw. MAYBE 4w3. I'm not sure on my tritype, but that's really not as important to me as the core fixation and stacking. The point is what patterns dominate my thoughts most of the time.

    Christina as 3w4 SX/SP... I can see that. The lyrics for "Hurt" bleeeeeeeeddd 3 SX. Not in the glamorized pin-up girl way, but in the sense of clinging to someone you always wanted to make proud. Anyone can feel the pain in the song. Anyone can relate to heartbreak, but not the same way she's describing.

    I REALLY felt that way about a teacher, in spite of everyone telling me I was crazy (well, they call me crazy for a lot of other things. My reputation is pretty out there, but...). I still get that intuitive nudge to say that I love[d] him.

    It's a kick in the face when someone who I thought understood me kind of does a 180. :/ Aside from that one case, I bond to people on a one-on-one basis crazy fast. I don't remember the last time I didn't have someone with whom I had that kind of connection.

    Side note: -_- people tend to think I'm either really, really angry, really, really sad, or really, really spastic before they get to know me. Usually the second one. I'm hyperreactive and have had people ask me if I'm bipolar or have OCD or worse, if I'm on my period.

    If I did have a disorder, would it make a difference in how the treated me? Probably not. It's so easy for people to make fun of bipolar disorder when they've never had it.
    "I'm bi-WINNING. Waahhhh, I'm fucked up and it's my mom's fault." SHUT UP. SHUT UP.
    It's just not something I can control. Depression... wanting to die or run away sucks, to be fair, and mania is just fucking scary. Having both of them isn't a joke like some people make it out to be. I imagine that ultimately, what they want is someone who can understand them.

    Maybe I could do with toning down the give-a-fuck meter, but persistent misconceptions get my panties in a bunch, and I HAVE TO correct them when I see them. Assumptions about me get my panties in a bunch. Homophobia gets my panties in a bunch. Certain jokes about rape get my panties in a bunch. Telling me to not get my panties in a bunch gets my panties in a bunch. I know that people will be people, but that's why I stay the fuck away from THOSE people.

    Groups? AWWWWWKWARD. One-on-one is fine. With a small group is fine, but otherwise, I almost feel this sense of animosity if I'm not close to everyone in the group.

    But I do have reasons for SO. As a 3, it's not necessarily about social admiration as much as it is getting acknowledged for what I put my effort into. As for my group, I don't really have one, hah. There's definitely a scene/subculture to which my interests align.

    But alas, as I'm still in high school, chance and proximity dictate my connections to a greater extent than choice does. I'd rather have a friend far away who understands me than a "friend" in real life just because I don't want to be alone or to look like I can't keep someone company. It wasn't my choice to be born here, with these people, or to have this family. Call me selfish for consuming my parents' resources, but it wasn't my choice to be alive.

    I'm a tourist in my home town and I'm packing up and getting the fuck out of here. They say that you're only young once, but I don't think I'll ever truly be alive until I can choose my circumstances and the people around me.

    "New York is the kind of place where it's nice to visit, but you would never really want to live there." UHM?! I DO want to live in a big city where there are people evveerrryyywhere and everything is spaced closely together. The fuck do they know? "But a small apartment is expensive." A small apartment is all I need. I don't want a big house. I'm out and about enough for my dwelling to be either a closet with a bed in it or a trashed party room.

    Hmmm or join the Peace Corps. Again, I don't care about material belongings, nor do I have a sense of sanctuary-- I just want to live. Just as long as there's actually a world outside of my front door instead of all road.

    I like talking about myself, but that's it for now.
    ISTP 3w2 SX/SO

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    I would say SX/SO~
    Omg I was born in NY and I miss it terribly. California has its benefits (the gurls ;D) but the big city is where I was destined to be. My parents are afraid to let me fly away, though.
    "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boo View Post
    I would say SX/SO~
    Omg I was born in NY and I miss it terribly. California has its benefits (the gurls ;D) but the big city is where I was destined to be. My parents are afraid to let me fly away, though.
    Right? "Whaat, do you really want to abandon your family and the place you grew up in?"

    Uhm, yes?! THERE MUST BE MORE than this provincial life.
    ISTP 3w2 SX/SO

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    ISTP 4w3? That seems like a weird fit. I mean 3w4 is a current enneatype for an ISTP, but 4w3 is rare. I feel you very close with Karen O, she is an ISFP 4w3 So/Sx. You have almost the same type, but not quite. A big difference between So-first and Sx-first is that So have problem with long periods of intimacy, they need to be connected with a larger social sphere to really express their sense of survival. As an So-second I can relate to that, but I dislike to be in groups where there's no people I have a strong connection with. So first have less problem with that, I think, since they are belonging and empowering with their "similars". Sx instinctively act to complete the self toward intimacy and intensity, So instinctively act to surpass the self enlarge the self belonging and empowering toward a larger entity.

    I've ever sent you 3w4 So/Sx examples, here are famous 3w4 Sx/So's if you want to campare.

    3w4 Sx/So
    Gwen Stefani http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1QlTrafCps
    Madonna http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyTluYm_OUU
    Cher http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYRqJCgpOa4
    David Bowie http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAAhDNHcACU
    Christopher Walken http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Omz0wiQfRqw
    Barbara Streisand http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZSI0S6E9TI
    Whitney Houston http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrnEcMZQD3E
    Tori Amos http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ua44cu30mnc
    Elizabeth Hurley http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=fH8-mSuQlFc
    Ricky Martin http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3Kig4k6W98
    Sasha Grey http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZ6zPch9fMM
    Jon Bon Jovi http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-BTDr47rEE
    Paris Hilton http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liJbE71DK20
    Erwin Olaf http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1D8HKsJP0ng
    Maria Bartiromo http://www.charlierose.com/view/interview/11000
    Vanessa Williams http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOp3iUVU1XY

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