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    Quote Originally Posted by Wandering View Post
    I wanna laugh, but you made me cry before, so there
    note to self: pulling structure from beneath a J will not be seen as playfulness

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wandering View Post
    Another problem is that Introverts can get confused when typing themselves, *especially* on the J/P scale, because for Introverts, J/P refers to our Auxiliary, not our Dominant. But we mainly see ourselves as our Dominant, so we sometimes completely skew the questions without even noticing. An exemple of this is the "wait and see" stuff we mentioned earlier: someone else might see us as closure-oriented because we only show our decisions once we've taken them, but we know that it can take us forever to make them in the private of our mind. So we might look J to the world, but very P to ourselves.

    I hate the J/P dichotomy...
    You nailed it. That resonates completely with me. I'll think things through a billion zillion trillion times in my head and examine every possibility and advantage and consequence but it's all in my head. Then i'll just make a decision and not think about it again because what's the use if i just thought about it a billion times to second guess myself? To someone else i might seem set in my decision and not open to another possibility because i already examined all the possibilities in my head before they voiced the possibility to me. To myself i seem indecisive.

    Wow this was a very important point you brought up. Thank you. I now understand the source of my confusion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grayscale View Post
    all this decision making is J-in' me out, maaayn
    Lol at that. Just like your hunch way before told you, i'm J all right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grayscale View Post
    note to self: pulling structure from beneath a J will not be seen as playfulness


    I hate you

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    Fuent: happy to be of help And I totally know about the "thinking things through a billion zillion trillion times in my head"!

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    Could it be said that J prefers to know and P prefers to understand? (I'm not quite sure if this applies generally or if i'm talking specifically about INTJ/INTP, actually i'm not quite sure what's making me say this at all, but something within me told me to bring it up.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuent View Post
    Could it be said that J prefers to know and P prefers to understand?
    I personally wouldn't put it that way, no But that's just me.

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    I'm just being too abstract methinks. I'm not quite sure what i was trying to verbalize but whatever it was it's definitely not ready to be said out loud until i can make sense of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuent View Post
    I'm just being too abstract methinks. I'm not quite sure what i was trying to verbalize but whatever it was it's definitely not ready to be said out loud until i can make sense of it.
    No problem. It's not like it never happens to me

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    Well guys, thanks a lot for this wonderful discussion. I can stop obsessing so much about this now. MBTI is still fascinating though and i'm sure it won't be too long before i start obsessing about some other aspect of it.

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    watch out for self-fulfilling prophesy. i've seen a lot of that in this thread.

    you do seem NJ, though.

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