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    You have no self-awareness of how you might be perceived by others. Lack of "perspective shifts" indicate a low Ni. Your posting has a strong vibe of pretense and of disingenuity.

    You are either an ESFP or an ESTP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Savage Idealist View Post
    Like:

    sx/so: the party dude
    sp/sx: the individual

    Or:

    sp/so: usually concerned with maintaining thei own needs via stability of the group
    so/sx: want a strong unity with the group so that close relationships are easyer to attain

    Something like that.
    Oh, I see. Let's see... From the Ocean Moonshine website:

    sx/sp
    Motivation: to know the heart, reconcile inner conflict, form a secure union.
    Familiar roles: the devotee, the seeker, the wanderer

    sx/so
    Motivation: to impact others, question assumptions, challenge convention.
    Familiar roles: provocateur, activist, exhibitionish

    sp/so
    Motivation: to attain a position of material and societal security.
    Familiar Roles: the businessperson, the responsible citizen, the pillar of society.

    sp/sx
    Motivation: to live in a secure, comfortable environment where they can pursue their private interests in depth.
    Familiar Roles: the mate, the mystic, the quiet supporter.

    so/sp
    The motivation for this type is to attain status within their chosen sphere - the "social climber."

    so/sx
    This type's motivation is to create lasting connections with those they are interested in - the "best friend."

    You can read more here.

    Also, quick tip - So =/= sheeple. Orwell was an So type because he was attuned to the social atmosphere of his day, which made him a sharp social critic.

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    Originally posted by Perch420
    You have no self-awareness of how you might be perceived by others. Lack of "perspective shifts" indicate a low Ni. Your posting has a strong vibe of pretense and of disingenuity.

    You are either an ESFP or an ESTP.
    The hell are you talking about? Since when did I not have self-awareness of how others perceive me or a lack of "perspective shifts"? Please give some evidence of what you are talking about.

    Originally posted by Viridian
    Oh, I see. Let's see... From the Ocean Moonshine website:
    sx/sp
    Motivation: to know the heart, reconcile inner conflict, form a secure union.
    Familiar roles: the devotee, the seeker, the wanderer

    sx/so
    Motivation: to impact others, question assumptions, challenge convention.
    Familiar roles: provocateur, activist, exhibitionish

    sp/so
    Motivation: to attain a position of material and societal security.
    Familiar Roles: the businessperson, the responsible citizen, the pillar of society.

    sp/sx
    Motivation: to live in a secure, comfortable environment where they can pursue their private interests in depth.
    Familiar Roles: the mate, the mystic, the quiet supporter.

    so/sp
    The motivation for this type is to attain status within their chosen sphere - the "social climber."

    so/sx
    This type's motivation is to create lasting connections with those they are interested in - the "best friend."
    Oh cool, thanks for posting

    Let's see, I'd say I'm definitely either an sp/sx or sx/sp based on the descriptions

    Also, quick tip - So =/= sheeple. Orwell was an So type because he was attuned to the social atmosphere of his day, which made him a sharp social critic.
    True, I shouldn't be so quick to stereotype things that aren't true

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    Quote Originally Posted by Perch420 View Post
    You have no self-awareness of how you might be perceived by others. Lack of "perspective shifts" indicate a low Ni. Your posting has a strong vibe of pretense and of disingenuity.

    You are either an ESFP or an ESTP.
    sorry, but this makes just about no sense
    1) ESTPs and ESFPs are extremely aware of how they are perceived by others. it's INTPs and INTJs who tend to have the most difficulty with this actually (awareness of how others perceive you is primarily Fe and Se).
    2) "self awareness of how others perceive you" self awareness and awareness of how others perceive you are completely different concepts (intrapersonal and interpersonal intelligences)
    3) could you explain the pretense and disingenuity? I don't see any of these things in Savage Idealists' posts
    4) complete lack of Ni is more a case for NP, ESXPs have Ni as their 4th function, so it comes out in childish or less mature ways. NPs on the other hand have Ne, so saying that an NP would lack Ni completely would make more sense
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    Savage Idealist, onece and for all: you are not a 9.

    And you have nothing sexual.
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    Originally posted by Elfboy
    sorry, but this makes just about no sense
    1) ESTPs and ESFPs are extremely aware of how they are perceived by others. it's INTPs and INTJs who tend to have the most difficulty with this actually (awareness of how others perceive you is primarily Fe and Se).
    2) "self awareness of how others perceive you" self awareness and awareness of how others perceive you are completely different concepts (intrapersonal and interpersonal intelligences)
    3) could you explain the pretense and disingenuity? I don't see any of these things in Savage Idealists' posts
    4) complete lack of Ni is more a case for NP, ESXPs have Ni as their 4th function, so it comes out in childish or less mature ways. NPs on the other hand have Ne, so saying that an NP would lack Ni completely would make more sense
    Thanks you

    Originally posted by Speed Gavroche
    Savage Idealist, onece and for all: you are not a 9.

    And you have nothing sexual.
    Why not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Savage Idealist View Post
    Why not?
    For the 9 thing, I've ever answered to that question.
    For the Sx thing, you don't try at all to be intense/seducive, like Sx people do.
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    Originally posted by Speed Gavroche
    For the 9 thing, I've ever answered to that question.
    Sorry, I don't remember where you ever mentioned that.

    For the Sx thing, you don't try at all to be intense/seducive, like Sx people do.
    Sx needsto be intense how? Then what about Sp/Sx?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Savage Idealist View Post
    Sorry, I don't remember where you ever mentioned that.
    you don't strike as a 9 at all/ You are too much nervous, too lmuch intelectual, too much openly anti-authoritarain, anti-conformist and confrontational. 6w7 Sp/So like Millhouse, Woody Allen, Joss Whedon are clearly more like you than 9w8 Sp/So like Dwight Eishenower, Gerald Ford, or Charles Westmoreland from Prison Break.
    Sx needsto be intense how? Then what about Sp/Sx?
    Hem, it is in the definition.
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    Oh yeah, now I remember where you mentioned that. I suppose I could be six first, does anyone else think 6 first in my tri-type is a possibility for me?

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