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    Quote Originally Posted by Wandering View Post


    By the way, what does it feel like to have two INFJs saying they'd like to be your type if they could choose? (I mean, ESFJ *is* your type, right, you didn't choose it just to confuse people like me, did you?)
    It's interesting, since I am newer here, and I don't really try to "type" people I know. I have had at least one person on here say that they thought I was ENFP or ENFJ, although most people I know who have seen the descriptions of types think I am ESFJ all the way. I guess that I would like to know what particular traits would make ESFJ appeal to you? Extroversion? I am a pretty extreme Extrovert, that would be my dominant trait, I would say. The Sensing/Intuitive dichotomy is the least intelligible to me, and I barely scored S when I tested. I like being a "people" person, and I like being someone in touch with his emotions, but my world view can be very rigid, and not living up to standards (by myself or someone else) gets me down. As to your type, I respect people who think deeply before they speak or weigh in on a subject. My brain/mouth work so fast and I have such strong, instantaneous feelings and notions that I can really be overwhelming, or offend someone totally unwittingly. It's hard to look at things from someone else's perspective for me, too. And that is a particular weakness, since I am a weird guy and my viewpoint is not near the mainstream much of the time.
    Who wants to try a bottle of merc's "Extroversion Olive Oil?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by INTJMom View Post
    Don't I KNOW it!
    Don't get me wrong. My ISTP husband is the man of my dreams and we had our 25th anniversary last year, but MAN! EVERY.SINGLE.DAY. it's the same stupid S vs N misunderstandings!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I'm a little tired of it.
    Dunno if it's any better but we seem to suffer more from the whole EP versus IP thing. We can follow each other's thought train when the other takes the time to actually go through it instead of skipping out the "boring bits".
    Isn't it time for a colourful metaphor?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pure_mercury View Post
    I guess that I would like to know what particular traits would make ESFJ appeal to you?
    All of them ?

    Extroversion? I am a pretty extreme Extrovert, that would be my dominant trait, I would say.
    I'd love to *not* have to run away from people regularly

    The Sensing/Intuitive dichotomy is the least intelligible to me, and I barely scored S when I tested.
    Quite frankly, unless you're some kind of Wise Advisor, Ni, and especially DomNi can be a bit of a burden in every day life. For me at least. Having my mind constantly rearranging my ideas, never knowing for sure what I believe... Ugh, tiring.

    I like being a "people" person,
    I so want to be DomFe! Not sure why. Just that I value that more than anything else, I guess, this ability to be devoted to others, to the group.

    and I like being someone in touch with his emotions, but my world view can be very rigid, and not living up to standards (by myself or someone else) gets me down.
    Not much different than me, there.

    It's hard to look at things from someone else's perspective for me, too.
    And it's tiring to *always* be trying to look at things from someone else's perspective

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nocapszy View Post
    We all use the same information.
    No we don't. We all have the same information available to us, true, but none of us actually perceives all that information - we can't, our brain would explode. So we filter, we select. And Sensors and iNtuitives use different filters, and consequently don't absorb the same information.

    Saying that an SP, for example, uses the same information I do, would be ridiculous, considering how incredibly *little* I am aware of my surroundings. They take in information I don't even notice, and vice versa.

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    [QUOTE=Xander;162263] A great philosopher once wrote. . . QUOTE]

    A Shamen quotation? Wow, weird. . .
    Who wants to try a bottle of merc's "Extroversion Olive Oil?"

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    Seanan, That could be a conversation between my husband and myself, but when I say "huh," he says, "am I doing it again?" He's almost 56. They do mellow with age and learn about themselves. If yours is young, there is hope!

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    Really? You actually come across as an ESFP to me, but then again, I haven't interacted with you at all.

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    If this is true, I always thought whatever seemed to be playing an ESFP. My natural reaction is to see Fs as female and Ts as male. whatever was ambiguous.

    Also, I did have difficulty believing that whatever was anything like my father, who is almost certainly an ESXP. YLJ, on the other hand, seems very similar.


    As I have said elsewhere: We have a lot of Sensors that have either switched to avoid stereotypes or they're deceiving themselves (some unintentionally).
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    Disclaimer: The above is my opinion and mine alone, it does not mean I cannot change my mind, nor does it guarantee that my comments are related to any deep-seated convictions. Take everything I say with a whole snowplow worth of salt and call me in the morning, if you can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymous View Post
    Really? You actually come across as an ESFP to me, but then again, I haven't interacted with you at all.
    I would somewhat agree with this. You very much remind me of an ESFP friend of mine and just so you know she's no dummy. You may be an S whose leaning more towards T as I am with the F/T I/E thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Journey View Post
    Seanan, That could be a conversation between my husband and myself, but when I say "huh," he says, "am I doing it again?" He's almost 56. They do mellow with age and learn about themselves. If yours is young, there is hope!
    there's no hope... he's older! geez... he has mellowed so to speak with the "moods" but the communications seems worse actually... either that or he's talking more with age... yeh, that's it.

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    Default Sensor Bias: or why I've been lying...

    Quote Originally Posted by whatever View Post
    As you all know, I joined this site as a Sensor and have been one for somewhere around 5 months now.

    Am I a Sensor? No. I've tested as an ENTP since I first took the test in high school
    How do we know you're not lying to us now?

    Half of me wonders if you shouldn't be drawn and quartered for knowingly deceiving us for as long as you did.

    The other half admires your moxie and thinks "well played."

    Such is the diabolical allure of the ENTP.

    (Still, I'm surprised there weren't more torches and pitchforks in response to your revelation.)
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