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    Quote Originally Posted by cascadeco View Post
    ^ See, I don't know.

    My thought is that the 'S' questions seem to lean more towards Si than Se, so I think it's fairly common for SP's to test as N's.
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    I also want to echo that I think the ISFP description of Artist is really cool, and I actually relate to some of their traits (I love nature, and enjoy sleeping for long periods of time for example) and I don't think there's anything wrong with the ESFP description, either, as performer or actor, whatever it is. That's neat-o.

    And who is to say ISTJs aren't glad to be called duty fulfillers? I saw some of them on Pers Cafe defending their right to be just that. They don't seem especially bothered by it.

    Maybe it's your own bias that makes you think the N descriptions sound cool.

    I mean, I remember (incorrectly) testing as INFJ and being HELLA DISAPPOINTED. I did NOT want to be an INFJ, and it was amusing to me when I came to forums and learned more about personality theory that this type was coveted, that people would intentionally slant toward INFJs even if they were really INFPs or ISFJs. I always thought INFP sounded much better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KDude View Post
    ... My first test was in my teens. My results were INFP. ...
    My first test was infj I think. I was in my early twenties. I remember it because I bragged I was the same type as Gandhi. I think Gandhi is infj in Keirsey's book.

    You had the official test though right?

    Some tests prefer N over S in wording, some don't. That DDLI (I think that is how it is spelled) seemed okay. And the Lenore Thomson one is okay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfy View Post
    My first test was infj I think. I was in my early twenties. I remember it because I bragged I was the same type as Gandhi. I think Gandhi is infj in Keirsey's book.

    You had the official test though right?

    Some tests prefer N over S in wording, some don't. That DDLI (I think that is how it is spelled) seemed okay. And the Lenore Thomson one is okay.
    Yeah, it was official. I've taken another official test since then and it was INFP too. I guess they were nearly 15 years apart. I have a lot of my own anecdotes on how I see myself differently from SPs, but I could do the same with some INFPs. I think it's probably easier to just talk about MBTI in terms of preferences.. best "fit".

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    Quote Originally Posted by KDude View Post
    I think it's probably easier to just talk about MBTI in terms of preferences.. best "fit".
    Exactly. I'm an ESFX, showing almost pretty equally the qualities of ESFP and ESFJ. I have an ENFJ friend who displays several qualities of the ENTJ. They're all just guidelines and noone is ever going to fit one exactly. However, I do think the distinction between N and S is usually a little more defined.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReflecttcelfeR View Post
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    I guess what I meant was; could you maybe make that intelligible?
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    I was just thinking about philosophers questioning what Reality actually is, and sense we can never REALLY know that what we're feeling, physically, is real or not the Sensing aspect of perceiving is itself extremely complicated and abstract.

    edit. Assuming you believe in such philosophical ideas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by guesswho View Post
    How can you expect accurate results if the interpretation of the results isn't accurate, when the N side is WAY FAVORED.
    I always thought of sensors as less abstract and creative than Ns, but far more coordinated and physically able. Besides, you can still be an intelligent S; the MBTI doesn't try to limit you to sensing, but it implies that you prefer it (i.e. dominant function).

    Quote Originally Posted by ReflecttcelfeR View Post
    I was just thinking about philosophers questioning what Reality actually is, and sense we can never REALLY know that what we're feeling, physically, is real or not...
    The hard problem of consciousness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NegativeZero View Post
    I always thought of sensors as less abstract and creative than Ns, but far more coordinated and physically able.
    You thought wrong. You even explained why:
    Besides, you can still be an intelligent S; the MBTI doesn't try to limit you to sensing, but it implies that you prefer it (i.e. dominant function).
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    I don't see how I contradicted myself. If I prefer Pepsi, then I am still capable of drinking Coke.
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