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  1. #41
    Honor Thy Inferior Such Irony's Avatar
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    Here's another I video I made today. It's a little shorter and more spontaneous in that I didn't have a preset list of questions I was reading from. Still pretty low-key overall:

    [YOUTUBE="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmAGZixugjI"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmAGZixugjI[/YOUTUBE]
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    my gut impression based on your previous posts is INFJ
    - function order Ni, Fe, Ti, Se
    - they are usually extremely rational (in fact, they're often just as rational as NTs) but they differ from NTs in that emotions can get in the way if they don't take care of them.
    - generally highly introverted, but often quite social and people oriented too
    - often have a very strong Teritary Ti
    - extremely averse to conflict
    - sometimes wish to belong to a group (others not so much)

    sound like you?

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    I watched your videos.

    I think INFP is unlikely because I didn't get that vibe (but then I don't exactly know any IRL other than myself). I still think you're a INTP, but (for some reason I can't fully explain) I can see that INFJ is a strong possibility. Perhaps I sense Fe...

    You do speak in a precise and clear manner but that could be T or J (or both).
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuchIrony View Post
    I know on that functions test, I score high on both Ti and Fi. Actually if I remember right Fi was a little higher than Ti. Ne and Si were also strong. Te and Ni were average and Se and Fe were low. I think I have better developed Fe than that test indicates though. Some of the Fe questions were such that as a strong introvert, I just could not relate to them.
    Those seem like typical INTP results (Fe as low). A clue to T/F when both are strong is which function's opposite attitude is weaker. It never follows the Beebe order, but again, usually more closely the Lenore order with the inferior as very weak and the shadow of the dominant as somewhere in the middle.

    I've just seen the videos, and from the first one and some of the newest one, you sound so much like me. (Dealing with people, justice/fairness, the liking but not having animals, especially needing reason why for everything, etc. All of these Ti personal cause/effect decisions). If I had time, I'd go through them and list everything with possible explanations. For instance, I know I can be very literal as well, but it's not an S preference. It might be tertiary Si, or just a particular situation. The reason you give is less ambiguity, and that is probably more the Ti than any S.
    The same with some of what you are calling "J" behaviors.
    Process/results are also tied to Interaction Styles, and INP (Behind the Scenes) are results oriented (along with In Charge) while Get Things Going and Chart the Course are process oriented. So that is not J, but INP!

    You otherwise really sound more like a P, which is "attitude", not neatness, as you acknowledged. Ne sounds very prominent. (Different perspectives, etc).

    Feeling seems to fit a developed inferior. (Care about what others think too much as what you dislike, as opposed to your brain and intelligence being what you like about yourself). That's clear T over F preference. Fe would match what Berens calls "aspirational".

    And overall, you do seem like an INTP female, from what I have seen of them. The whole vibe and everything. Again, female might seem to be "Feeling", because that's the role society projects onto females, and of course, a majority of them are F.
    So I guess seeing your face and speech are what I needed to push me one way or the other.
    Quote Originally Posted by Athenian200 View Post
    The main things that seemed TJ were... the stiffness and coldness of your behavior, and also how ordered and organized it was. You were very monotone, almost robotic.

    The thing is, I've also been accused of being robotic when I'm nervous, so I'm not sure. If you were nervous, that throws things off, because you need to be seen in a relaxed state, not a tense one.

    It's also possible that you have some sort of issue that leads to flattened affect, despite actually being a more sensitive person.
    She seems like a somewhat reserved "informative" type (such as NP) rather than a naturally "robotic, tense" directive TJ. (And the NFJ is also directive, and carries a completely different vibe from her).
    The T would give enough of that composure you're interpreting as "stiff". (I didn't see it as "cold" at all, however. But I'm going by the informative vibe, which I relate better to).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric B View Post
    She seems like a somewhat reserved "informative" type (such as NP) rather than a naturally "robotic, tense" directive TJ. (And the NFJ is also directive, and carries a completely different vibe from her).
    So if she's not a directing type, that removes the possibility of her being any TJ or NFJ. So not ISTJ, INTJ, or INFJ. That leaves INTP, INFP, or ISFJ as the remaining possibilities among what's been suggested. Since others have said that she doesn't seem very much like an INFP, we can rule that out. And since others have gotten enough of an Fe vibe to suggest INFJ, that leaves ISFJ as the most likely between INTP and ISFJ.
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    No. From the video, she does not seem like an ISFJ. (And I've always heard that face to face observation is apart of a genuine MBTI assessment). She seems like a female INTP, with a heightened inferior Fe. Clearly, the "thinking" she likes about herself, while the "sensitivity" she doesn't.
    That's one of the biggest clues of "preference" (moreso than behavior or even function "strength"), because preference is based on the ego's sense of "I" versus "not I".

    Going over the second video, the biggest activity she enjoys is personality theory, how people's minds work ("find it fascinating"), etc. That is clearly an N+T perspective.
    SJ's really are not into abstract theories like this. I'm surrounded by them, and can't ever get a decent conversation started on it. (Except for my wife, and only because she's studying psychology, and even then, she's just as not into it for its own sake as I am).
    So for ISFJ, it would have to be a very strong inferior Ne, but a strong inferior Fe (especially in a female) sounds more likely to me.
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    Hi SuchIrony,

    I have watched your videos.

    Being a computer programmer, and ironically having my desk in a library for two years with the other library ladies during one of my contracts, I have likely met more female INTP's than most.

    You vibe that same feeling, essence to me.

    Remember, Fi isn't about emotions per se, so I think your sensitivity is due to a more developed Fe. As women too, I think we are inundated more with what is supposed to be socially appropriate female behaviour from a young age, and as a result most female INTP's I have met are more aware of a people dynamic than their male counterparts.

    I vote INTP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric B View Post
    No. From the video, she does not seem like an ISFJ. (And I've always heard that face to face observation is apart of a genuine MBTI assessment). She seems like a female INTP, with a heightened inferior Fe. Clearly, the "thinking" she likes about herself, while the "sensitivity" she doesn't.
    That's one of the biggest clues of "preference" (moreso than behavior or even function "strength"), because preference is based on the ego's sense of "I" versus "not I".
    Right...so we are what we value. Somehow I doubt that this is true. If given the choice, no one is going to say that they prefer sensitivity over "thinking," since the latter is in general viewed as being of greater value than the former. Plus, these two things are not opposites to begin with.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric B View Post
    Going over the second video, the biggest activity she enjoys is personality theory, how people's minds work ("find it fascinating"), etc. That is clearly an N+T perspective.
    Yeah, because everybody at this site is not also interested in these things.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric B View Post
    SJ's really are not into abstract theories like this. I'm surrounded by them, and can't ever get a decent conversation started on it. (Except for my wife, and only because she's studying psychology, and even then, she's just as not into it for its own sake as I am).
    You're honestly using "interest in MBTI" as some measure of N?

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric B View Post
    So for ISFJ, it would have to be a very strong inferior Ne, but a strong inferior Fe (especially in a female) sounds more likely to me.
    Okay, so you're admitting to erroneously favoring one dumb rationalization over another.
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    I also get an ISFJ vibe from watching the video
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orangey View Post
    Right...so we are what we value. Somehow I doubt that this is true. If given the choice, no one is going to say that they prefer sensitivity over "thinking," since the latter is in general viewed as being of greater value than the former. Plus, these two things are not opposites to begin with.

    Yeah, because everybody at this site is not also interested in these things.

    You're honestly using "interest in MBTI" as some measure of N?

    Okay, so you're admitting to erroneously favoring one dumb rationalization over another.
    These are all evidences. And I see it in real life that N's prefer this sort of stuff, and most S's see it as less relevant, unless they are using it "in passing", for their job, or self-improvement, etc. They do not express the level of interest in it that she has. You're here; but then would you say you identify with her sentiment?
    You use as the sole evidence some "Fe vibe", but in light of all the other evidence shown in favor of INTP, the vibe coming from a inferior Fe is more likely than her strong interest in the abstract coming from an inferior Ne.

    Meanwhile, since she has shown us her videos; I'm surprised you have not brought in those Socionics drawings as the final proof. Is that what you're basing ISFJ on?
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