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    I could see you as an F maybe.
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    I think you seem ISFJ.
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    So far it seems like you are either INTP with tricky Fe or some sort of IxxJ, leaning toward INxJ. I wonder how common it really is to be INFJ with very well developed Ti...

    I'm glad you gave a lot of information to work with though, you are simply one of many who is tricky to type.

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    Any chance you're a shy ESFJ? I met a handful of relatively shy people who type themselves as the exact opposite of what everyone else think they are. I can't explain why, but I noticed a pattern.

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    In Malcontent's thread, when I mentioned the APS temperament system you had identified with Supine in Inclusion and to some extent Choleric in Control. This would seem to match INTP.

    Both being a female, and being Supine, you would come out more sensitive and stereotypically F-like than the typical INTP. (Most INTP's are the more indifferent Phlegmatic in Inclusion, and T has become associated with masculinity anyway).

    However, since ISFJ is being mentioned, and that you seemed to identify with the "independent" aspect of Choleric more than the aggressive part, then you could be a Melancholy in Control http://www.pastoral-counseling-cente...ly-control.pdf, which would be SJ. It has the same level of independence (not wanting interference) as the Choleric, but lacks the aggressiveness (unless they're enforcing someone else's rules). Supine Melancholy would be ISFJ, and very close in both temperament mix (behavior; especially for a female) and primary functions to an INTP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric B View Post
    In Malcontent's thread, when I mentioned the APS temperament system you had identified with Supine in Inclusion and to some extent Choleric in Control. This would seem to match INTP.

    Both being a female, and being Supine, you would come out more sensitive and stereotypically F-like than the typical INTP. (Most INTP's are the more indifferent Phlegmatic in Inclusion, and T has become associated with masculinity anyway).

    However, since ISFJ is being mentioned, and that you seemed to identify with the "independent" aspect of Choleric more than the aggressive part, then you could be a Melancholy in Control http://www.pastoral-counseling-cente...ly-control.pdf, which would be SJ. It has the same level of independence (not wanting interference) as the Choleric, but lacks the aggressiveness (unless they're enforcing someone else's rules). Supine Melancholy would be ISFJ, and very close in both temperament mix (behavior; especially for a female) and primary functions to an INTP.
    Here's the melancholy in control description. Once again, I've bolded that parts that particularly fit me and italicized the parts that somewhat fit:

    General description of people who are Melancholy in Control:
    1. Expresses very little control over the lives and behaviors of others, and will not tolerate control over his/her life and behavior -- highly independent and strong-willed
    2. Demands order, truth, reliability and dependability from himself/herself and others -- perfectionistic
    3. Must appear competent and in control
    4. Intellectually oriented -- needs facts, research, information -- when he/she has the necessary information, he/she must act upon it -- will follow individuals whom he/she knows to be intellectually superior (has respect for them as leaders)
    5. May become anxious if anyone is his/her sole responsibility

    Potential strengths which should be encouraged, used and developed:
    1. Independent and self-motivated
    2. Makes decisions very well and takes on responsibilities very well when dealing in areas with which he/she is familiar or an expert (areas previously dealt with)
    3. Very good leadership capacity if allowed to move into unknown areas of responsibility at his/her own pace

    Potential weaknesses which should be considered and dealt with:

    (Reminder: people who are Melancholy tend to focus only on weaknesses because of their perfectionism -- don't forget your strengths, please!)
    1. If pressured into making decisions or taking on responsibility in unknown areas (areas not previously dealt with), he/she tends to procrastinate. If this pressure continues, he/she will rebel and become angry, expressing this anger in ways learned in childhood. For example, if he/she observed adults expressing anger by throwing things, he/she will throw things.
    2. Has self doubts -- when moving into unknown areas, needs time to build up self-confidence -- this is viewed by others as procrastination
    3. Becomes angry if confronted for mistakes, criticized or made to look foolish
    4. Tends to be legalistic, rigid and uncompromising
    5. Becomes anxious if someone is his/her sole responsibility
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    Why tell you examples when others can prove my theory for me?

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    Since there are some who think I might be an S type, I thought it may be helpful to explain how I relate to the S and the N aspects:

    Sensing:
    *I've always preffered the exact to the approximate. Maybe its an INTP precision thing though.

    *I have a good memory for past events and experiences. I identify alot with the Si description.

    *I can be quite detail oriented. I am good at doing clerical type tasks like shelving books in their proper order at the library or spotting typos in documents. I also seem to be the one noticing the typos and when a book is misshelved.

    *I prefer the literal to the figurative and like authors to just say what they mean. Saying what you mean eliminates misunderstandings. I have a hard time getting poetry because often I feel that the meaning isn't clear or it could be interpreted in multiple ways. I like it when its clear immediately what the meaning is.

    *This relates more to SJ temperament than sensing per se, but I am very security oriented. I am very cautious and careful and would rather have a job that I know offers long-term security even if it wasn't my dream job than to have my dream job and constantly have to worry about whether or not I'd have a job next week.

    *I'm future oriented but I've come to realize, it's really more of an SJ security seeking way. Really I just want long-term future security. For example, I don't smoke or drink today because I know what the long-term future implications of that can be. I don't overspend money today, so I know that I'll have money tomorrow. I make sure I've got enough saved for retirement even though that's more than 30 years away.

    *I'm not likely to waste time on things I know are nearly impossible to achieve. I'd rather do things that bring a more immediate, short-term result than work on some long-term project where the payoff isn't so guaranteed.

    *I don't need deeper meanings all the time in things. Sometimes I feel some of my tastes are shallow as a result. Sometimes I just want to watch a mindless sitcom than something really deep or philosophical. Same goes for books as well.

    *I'm not all that interested in the mysterious, occult, or psychic phenomena. My brand of intuition is more down to earth- coming up with theories to explain everyday happenings.

    *I prefer some realism in what I read. Overall I prefer non-fiction but do enjoy some fiction. I do like science fiction and fantasy but the books I like best in those genres have some element of realism to them. I want elements that I can relate to. If its too fantastical there isn't much with which I can relate.

    *I remember one time at a type workshop, the presenter showed us a painting and we had to write down what we saw. What I said was very suggestive of sensing. My immediate instinct was to describe the specific objects and colors I saw in the painting rather than overall meaning or impression of it.


    Intuition:

    I often have strong hunches about things and am not afraid to act on those hunches. I often feel like something is just right or makes sense without having much solid factual evidence for it.

    I am open to trying new things and new approaches. I am quick to discard traditions and methods that no longer hold up with time. I highly value innovation.

    I am very theoretical and love theories and come up with alot of my own theories to explain phenomena. I am often less concerned with how these theories actuallly hold up in practice.

    I love learning for its own sake and I don't need it to be for a practical purpose.

    I often feel like I spend too much time pondering and philosophizing things than getting things done in the real world.

    I am not very physically oriented. I don't absorb the physical details in my immediate environment like a sponge. I tend to selectively pay attention only to the parts that interest me and tend to ignore the rest. This could be suggestive of stronger Si than Se. I wait until the situation demands that I pay attention to those details before I notice them. For example, when working at a new workplace, I may not pay much attention to where certain desk supplies are like the hole punch until I have a need to use it myself or someone else asks me for it. Some people just naturally take in details indiscriminately whether they are personally useful to them or not. I'm definitely not one of those people. I also pay very little attention to details like the color of the carpet or what people are wearing. Since I pay such little attention to that, I can be very oblivious to things like trends in fashion which seem very obvious to just about everybody else.

    In conversations, I'd much rather talk about the larger issues than small talk type stuff. I like talking about philosophical type things- The meaning of life, is there a God? What happened before the big bang? than stuff like the weather or how the sports teams are doing.

    Physically I tend to be clumsy. Often this is because I'm so absorbed in my own thoughts that I'm not paying attention to my environment so I bump into things. I am lousy at sports. I may know in theory what techniques work best but can't seem to make them work in practice. I loved reading about science but hated the actual laboratory component of it.

    I don't enjoy doing physical activities like crafts, gardening, or cooking that much. I don't enjoy the actual physical process of it but I do enjoy seeing the end result.

    I question a great deal the conventions and common sense of society that so many people take for granted. Just because something has always been done that way doesn't mean its the best way. I'm all for out of the box thinking. However, while I value innovative thinking highly, I'm not sure I'm all that innovative myself in my thinking.

    I'm always seeing different meanings and interpretations to things. Instructions and forms can be confusing because I'll see more than one way the statement could have been interpreted.

    Alot of things that people take as common sense, I'm oblivious to. This can have embarrasing results.
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    Sounds like it could go either way between ISFJ and INTP.

    However, as for S/N, the ISFJ is dominant S, inferior N, while the INTP is auxiliary N, tertiary S. unless you are middle-age, the inferior is likely to be very weak. So between those two types, the INTP is more likely to have S/N ambiguity (the tertiary often "inflates" itself a lot), while the ISFJ might have more T/F ambiguity, though I haven't really heard of any examples of this. You usually see this with INFJ's more. After all, they are drawn more to abstract discussions like type theory.

    Is your interest in the theory more of an confident ego-preferred thing, for its own sake, or is it just something you are using in passing because you heard it was good for growth; or perhaps just for "relief"? The latter would be more a Sensor's perspective.
    APS Profile: Inclusion: e/w=1/6 (Supine) |Control: e/w=7/3 (Choleric) |Affection: e/w=1/9 (Supine)
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    Being emotionally intelligent does not equal T or F.. I am happy to see you as an INTP with a sensitive side not so uncommon in INTP females and even a few males.
    You are just a little less stoic than usual.

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