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    cant forget she has been working on learning how to calm an overly emotional INFJ for over 2 years now whenever something goes horribly horribly almost horrifically wrong in his life, hahaha... she does work to try, but its not intuitive for her, she doesnt know what to say to calm me, at least not at first, she just knows that I am upset, and she does care about me so she tries to use logic to calm me down most of the time, it actually works often because the effort she puts forth means a lot to me... but it is definitely not an intuitive understanding of my feelings that makes her able to do so, its just her being a true friend and trying to make me feel better... this has led, over a loooooong time, to her having a bit better understanding of my feelings than she originally had... but she still doesnt completely understand them, and I am ok with that, cause its the effort that matters, she puts a lot of energy into trying, because she sees the value of it, and that means a lot more to me in many ways than an intuitive understanding. ^_^

    Whatever her type is, she is an awesome friend either way <3

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    Quote Originally Posted by Curator View Post
    cant forget she has been working on learning how to calm an overly emotional INFJ for over 2 years now whenever something goes horribly horribly almost horrifically wrong in his life, hahaha... she does work to try, but its not intuitive for her, she doesnt know what to say to calm me, at least not at first, she just knows that I am upset, and she does care about me so she tries to use logic to calm me down most of the time, it actually works often because the effort she puts forth means a lot to me... but it is definitely not an intuitive understanding of my feelings that makes her able to do so, its just her being a true friend and trying to make me feel better... this has led, over a loooooong time, to her having a bit better understanding of my feelings than she originally had... but she still doesnt completely understand them, and I am ok with that, cause its the effort that matters, she puts a lot of energy into trying, because she sees the value of it, and that means a lot more to me in many ways than an intuitive understanding. ^_^

    Whatever her type is, she is an awesome friend either way <3
    If you know her IRL then that trumps anything I feel on here.
    Yes.. dealing with an emotional neurotic NFJ for two years would teach her how to appeal to my senses and calm me..

    Perhaps She is just a very patient person..

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    oh yes, she is quite patient, And I was extremely unhealthy early last year, where she probably got most of her experience with helping a worse than emotionally neurotic INFJ, I wasn't nearly that unhealthy the first year though, and have made huge strides since then, but I kinda lost it, completely, after my friend was murdered, so I was in really really bad shape, im still surprised she stuck it out as my friend through all that crazy-ness, but she is awesome like that ^_^ and was one of the stabilizing factors in my life that helped me to keep the pieces together and start to heal and grow again, I wonder if all INTP's can be that awesome, or if she is just special,hehehe

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    Quote Originally Posted by LunaLuminosity View Post
    I am fairly sure of my type by now, but lately I've been wondering if there is another possibility that I am overlooking due to identifying with this type for so long. I have heard on a few occasions that I could be ENFP or INFP, and I wonder if this is more due to my name and cute avatars, or an actual expression of NFP preference.
    You sound like an INTP.

    It would seem your avatar is a product of being female. And then, the rationale you give for it in #4 sound like INTP. So it would make perfect sense for a female INTP.

    This is my most recent functional order:

    introverted Thinking (Ti) ******************************************* (43.3)
    extraverted Intuiting (Ne) ***************************************** (41.3)
    introverted Feeling (Fi) **************************************** (40)
    extraverted Thinking (Te) ************************************ (36.4)
    introverted Intuiting (Ni) ************************* (26)
    introverted Sensing (Si) ******************** (20.8)
    extraverted Sensing (Se) ******************** (20)
    extraverted Feeling (Fe) ************ (12.4)
    Those are actually very typical INTP scores. Fi is often third highest, because it is the "right brain alternative" to Ti. This is in Lenore Thomson's order, and it seems to make sense. Including Fe being lowest. The inferior often comes out weakest. It is the most consciously suppressed function. For an FP, it would actually be higher, probably around the middle, like your Te is.
    I think I am equal parts enneagram 4 and 5. I am obsessed with both individuality and competence. Kind of an alien analyzing the earth...
    But 5w4 makes sense in that I am 7-like during stress and 8-like while strong.
    The 8 is Choleric, and would in this case fit NT. This is interesting, as the Choleric often doesn't appear clearly in INTP's.
    Key Parts of the INTP description that I fit:
    -seeking clarity in everything
    -driven to build knowledge
    -"absent-minded professor"
    -approaching problems with enthusiasm and skepticism
    -love of new ideas
    -lives inside own mind
    -very little value on tradition
    -unconventional thought patterns

    Key parts I don't fit:
    -extremely bright
    -problems with dressing
    These are more stereotypical.
    -unwillingness to explain things in an understandable way
    This is actually common, as people simply don't understand the Ti conclusions. Ti is often described as so "precise and concise", and it aims to be, but sometimes, the things it analyzes are so complex, it's hard to break it down for everyone else.
    Key parts of the INFP description that I fit:
    -idealist
    Could be simply the Ne. Not always necessarily NF.
    -interested in understanding people
    Could possibly be Ti. People are, after all, "things" that can be analyzed. Fi's focus would be a little different.
    -perfectionism
    That is not necessarily INFP. I would think more directive or structure-focused types (ST, NJ, NT, SJ) are more perfectionistic. I know some profiles say that for INFP, but I think they are trying to convey an aspect of Fi, but it is not what we normally think of regarding "perfectionism".
    -awkward with verbal expression
    That isn't necessarily INFP. That could be INTP as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric B View Post
    You sound like an INTP.

    Those are actually very typical INTP scores. Fi is often third highest, because it is the "right brain alternative" to Ti. This is in Lenore Thomson's order, and it seems to make sense. Including Fe being lowest. The inferior often comes out weakest. It is the most consciously suppressed function. For an FP, it would actually be higher, probably around the middle, like your Te is.
    The 8 is Choleric, and would in this case fit NT. This is interesting, as the Choleric often doesn't appear clearly in INTP's.
    With the exeption of Si, my function score pattern was uncannily similar to Luna's. My Si was a bit higher though, around 35 points.

    I do think Luna is most likely an INTP.

    Still not sure if I'm INTP- I'm kind of debating INFJ vs INTP at the moment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arclight View Post
    INFPs are the most likely type to question their type.
    Especially e4 INFPs.. It's that sense of individuality and realizing that no matter how close someone else might be to your personality .. you are still unique.
    I have not noticed this behavior in INTP as much… in fact INTPs normally seem quite sure of their type.
    They also tend to have a bit of a pack mentality... Independent and different, but not individualistic in the presence of other INTPs.
    This is how I started out the thread:
    Quote Originally Posted by LunaLuminosity View Post
    I am fairly sure of my type by now, but lately I've been wondering if there is another possibility that I am overlooking due to identifying with this type for so long. I have heard on a few occasions that I could be ENFP or INFP, and I wonder if this is more due to my name and cute avatars, or an actual expression of NFP preference.
    Also, did you notice that I never changed those four letters under my location? With the exception of when I started that ‘replace one letter in your type with a Z’ cult (and maybe other silly games), I haven’t changed my type in the two years I’ve been here. I’m basically wondering more about the real reasons that members state or imply that I’m mistyped, more than having any serious enough type doubts of my own.

    I also do identify a little more with the INTPs here than the members of another type, but not strong enough to really form a 'pack.' I don't take this as proof of anything, but perhaps an indication.

    Quote Originally Posted by Arclight View Post
    What Your words make me feel and think is my final clue.
    Remember that thread.. where you just came in calmed me? That is F language you spoke to me with.
    It's a natural gift INFPs have with me.. They soothe me with their words and attitude.. INTPs don't.
    I react to your INFPness .. I feel it..
    If you don't understand that.. maybe you are a T.
    I was seeking an understanding of each other, so I was being pretty neutral, neither seeking to calm or provoke you.

    I think I spoke a little bit of F language because you were clearly coming from a really confusing Fe-like stance. A purely T-reply would just be inapplicable. But a lot of what I was doing was still about clarifying definitions of stuff.

    I remember I also had to acknowledge my frustration because, with my NFJ experience, I know they have this weird psychic-like thing going on where they can see through computers and know how the people are feeling. I don’t know how you knew about that girl faking the crime and things like that, but I still have to acknowledge the fact that you were right.

    So yeah, I don’t quite understand it… I think that maybe you’ve had bad experiences with INTPs and this is why you feel that I can’t belong to the T-side. You could be reacting to a Fi-vibe that I have that could be indicative of INFP but could be present in INTPs too if the T still takes over.

    Maybe it is an unusual amount of patience and experience.

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    To Eric B:

    I realize now more than I did before that the type descriptions I randomly chose are pretty stereotypical.

    I found these descriptions http://typelogic.com/intp.html to be of more help, and found that this part of the description is pretty enlightening: "A major concern for INTPs is the haunting sense of impending failure. They spend considerable time second-guessing themselves. The open-endedness (from Perceiving) conjoined with the need for competence (NT) is expressed in a sense that one's conclusion may well be met by an equally plausible alternative solution, and that, after all, one may very well have overlooked some critical bit of data. An INTP arguing a point may very well be trying to convince himself as much as his opposition."

    ^ This is pretty much the essence of this thread

    I looked at the INFP description too, and found that even though the overall tone of it is so unappealingly sugary to me, the meaning of it fits me pretty well.
    But about this part: "As INTPs tend to have a sense of failed competence, INFPs struggle with the issue of their own ethical perfection, e.g., performance of duty for the greater cause." I would like to stand behind the causes I say I am behind more, but I don't struggle with ethical perfection because I think my ethics are awesome enough anyway I am way more focused and annoyed by my flaws in competence.

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    Oh, no wonder nobody is reading this anymore... I forgot that the cupcakes ran out!


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    Quote Originally Posted by LunaLuminosity View Post
    To Eric B:

    I realize now more than I did before that the type descriptions I randomly chose are pretty stereotypical.

    I found these descriptions http://typelogic.com/intp.html to be of more help, and found that this part of the description is pretty enlightening: "A major concern for INTPs is the haunting sense of impending failure. They spend considerable time second-guessing themselves. The open-endedness (from Perceiving) conjoined with the need for competence (NT) is expressed in a sense that one's conclusion may well be met by an equally plausible alternative solution, and that, after all, one may very well have overlooked some critical bit of data. An INTP arguing a point may very well be trying to convince himself as much as his opposition."
    That one had helped me as well. The last sentence was a dead ringer for me, as I had always recognized that in my arguments.
    I looked at the INFP description too, and found that even though the overall tone of it is so unappealingly sugary to me, the meaning of it fits me pretty well.
    But about this part: "As INTPs tend to have a sense of failed competence, INFPs struggle with the issue of their own ethical perfection, e.g., performance of duty for the greater cause." I would like to stand behind the causes I say I am behind more, but I don't struggle with ethical perfection because I think my ethics are awesome enough anyway I am way more focused and annoyed by my flaws in competence.
    That definitely sounds INTP. I stand by certain kinds of causes, and going deeper, to look at it from the shadow perspective, it is precisely because the notion of ethical perfection is such anathema (a threat, which I then move to undo in others who impose it). So it's reactive, rather than the preference.
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    ^ I'm not sure what is meant by it being reactive rather than preference, but I think it sounds a little more INTP than INFP too...

    Also, "the Choleric often doesn't appear clearly in INTP's"? Does this mean that enneagram 8 is typically weak in our type?

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