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    It kind of sounds like you are standing right on the I/E line. .

    I wish there was some research in breaking down how the same type can express itself in different ways depending on where they fall on the scale.

    Maybe it's too subtle to pinpoint, but it sounds like it could help people like you out.

    You should create a new type called the LUNA which is a hybrid. Like a tangelo. Mmmm fruit.
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    Also I forgot to add that I liked your story. It was very cute and very NT.

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    hey luna, for comparison purposes, i figured i'd do the ENP one. let's see how many i match up with. i'm a relatively socially introverted cognitive extravert. i dunno my enneagram. probably 6w7 or 4w3.

    ENP Traits
    1. They have a lot of energy
    2. They're curious about everything, and seem to be always asking "Why?"
    3. They have lots of ideas and love to talk about them
    4. They always have several projects going on
    5. They want to be original and interesting
    6. They like to be leaders, and resist following (eh. lead alone < follow < independent < lead as part of team)
    7. They're very social
    8. They're very independent, and want to do things for themselves (but not usually by myself)
    9. They want to be the center of attention (sometimes)
    10. They probably tend to be dramatic, and enjoy acting or performing
    11. They're outspoken and energetic, and may interrupt frequently, or finish people's sentences for them
    Potential Strengths
    1. They're usually cheerful, optimistic, and fun to be around
    2. They're enthusiastic and fearless
    3. They believe that anything is possible
    4. They have very good communication skills and a strong ability to persuade others to come around to their point of view
    5. They usually have a good vocabulary, and can express themselves well in written and verbal form
    6. They're very clever (ha ha i like to think)
    7. They show an unusual understanding of people and situations for a child
    8. They have good people skills and are usually well-liked
    9. They naturally see the possibilities of a situation and the "big picture"
    Potential Weaknesses
    1. They frequently forget rules, or else they never knew them in the first place
    2. They have a lot of projects going on at one time, and may be scattered
    3. They frequently don't finish their projects
    4. They're usually very messy, and dislike cleaning up
    5. They tend to speak in a very loud voice without realizing it
    6. They have difficulty making decisions, and often resist decisions
    7. They are often unaware of their physical environment
    8. They may not take good care of themselves
    9. They're not usually very aware of time or schedules
    10. They don't like being controlled by others, and may be rebellious
    11. They dislike being asked to do anything, and will often act very "put upon" by any request


    i looked at yours too, i don't think your answers really contradict ENP. the one that would seem to be the most surprising to be off if you were ENP is good communication. though i know an ENTP who's not really amazing at communication as far as i know. he can be suave and he's usually charming but sometimes he's lazy and forgetful or blunt and that can lose him points. he's e7w8 i think.

    however - the way you write seems more INTP to me. i don't even know how to qualify that. it's a holistic thing. vibe. i remain in the INTP boat until further notice

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saturned View Post
    It kind of sounds like you are standing right on the I/E line. .

    I wish there was some research in breaking down how the same type can express itself in different ways depending on where they fall on the scale.

    Maybe it's too subtle to pinpoint, but it sounds like it could help people like you out.

    You should create a new type called the LUNA which is a hybrid. Like a tangelo. Mmmm fruit.
    Yay, I should totally just be the type LUNA to show that I am a hybrid. I did that for a little while...

    Quote Originally Posted by Saturned View Post
    Also I forgot to add that I liked your story. It was very cute and very NT.
    And thank you I was afraid my story would throw off peoples typings even further...

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    Quote Originally Posted by skylights View Post
    i looked at yours too, i don't think your answers really contradict ENP. the one that would seem to be the most surprising to be off if you were ENP is good communication. though i know an ENTP who's not really amazing at communication as far as i know. he can be suave and he's usually charming but sometimes he's lazy and forgetful or blunt and that can lose him points. he's e7w8 i think.
    Hehe yeah, that throws me off too: that whole ENTP reputation for being smooth communicators and such. I'm still terribly awkward at that stuff, lol. But then how much does skill have to do with type?

    Quote Originally Posted by skylights View Post
    however - the way you write seems more INTP to me. i don't even know how to qualify that. it's a holistic thing. vibe. i remain in the INTP boat until further notice
    Now my writing style is INTP? Before I was getting complaints that my style is too imprecise and fluffed up for that. *takes note*
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    Quote Originally Posted by LunaLuminosity View Post
    Hehe yeah, that throws me off too: that whole ENTP reputation for being smooth communicators and such. I'm still terribly awkward at that stuff, lol. But then how much does skill have to do with type?
    yeah hard to know. so you know how it's been written that the tertiary is how you "play"? i have an interpretation of the "child" role, maybe it can help. i think that it manifests in two main ways: (1) in an slightly not elegant and unwieldy way (think of a toddler, how they don't really understand their body yet) when they need to rely on it - in INTPs i see this as a vast Si storage bank, but one that is primarily used to support logic, instead of for establishing a larger data set. it backs up the logic structure of whatever systems they're interested in, but it doesn't reach beyond those systems like an SJ's would. in ENTPs i see this as Fe people manipulation, in that an ENTP can usually, between Ne and Fe, get away with a lot, and convince people to just like them or to rearrange the way they want - but it's not super warm, accepting Fe like FJs. (2) in a "cute" kind of way when they don't really need it - INTPs knowing lots of little trivia about their interests/hobbies and ENTPs having a big rowdy group of friends and/or "brotherhood" feelings.

    Now my writing style is INTP? Before I was getting complaints that my style is too imprecise and fluffed up for that. *takes note*
    oh well. you really do seem in between.

    idk if you feel trusting of this, but i'm going to borrow some from similarminds' jung trait correlations.

    INTP: individualist, more interested in intellectual pursuits than relationships, thoughtful about existence, likes esoteric things, disorganized, messy, likes science fiction, can be lonely, observer, private, can't describe feelings easily, detached, likes solitude, not revealing, unemotional, rule breaker, avoidant, skeptical, acts without consulting others, fantasy prone, appreciates strangeness, frequently loses things, guarded, more likely to support marijuana legalization, not prone to compromise, hard to persuade, relies on mind more than on others, calm.

    ENTP: risk taker, easy going, outgoing, social, open, rule breaker, thrill seeker, life of the party, comfortable in unfamiliar situations, appreciates strangeness, disorganized, adventurous, talented at presentation, aggressive, attention seeking, experience junky, insensitive, adaptable, not easily offended, messy, carefree, dangerous, careless, spontaneous, improviser, always joking, player, wild and crazy, dominant, acts without thinking, pro-weed legalization

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    Quote Originally Posted by skylights View Post
    yeah hard to know. so you know how it's been written that the tertiary is how you "play"? i have an interpretation of the "child" role, maybe it can help. i think that it manifests in two main ways: (1) in an slightly not elegant and unwieldy way (think of a toddler, how they don't really understand their body yet) when they need to rely on it - in INTPs i see this as a vast Si storage bank, but one that is primarily used to support logic, instead of for establishing a larger data set. it backs up the logic structure of whatever systems they're interested in, but it doesn't reach beyond those systems like an SJ's would. in ENTPs i see this as Fe people manipulation, in that an ENTP can usually, between Ne and Fe, get away with a lot, and convince people to just like them or to rearrange the way they want - but it's not super warm, accepting Fe like FJs. (2) in a "cute" kind of way when they don't really need it - INTPs knowing lots of little trivia about their interests/hobbies and ENTPs having a big rowdy group of friends and/or "brotherhood" feelings.
    I kind of see what you mean there. This is what I had to say about the tertiary:

    Quote Originally Posted by LunaLuminosity View Post
    Maybe this will help (stuff copypasta'd from cognitiveprocesses.com):
    The Relief Role (Tertiary)
    The relief role gives us a way to energize and recharge ourselves. It serves as a backup to the supporting role and often works in tandem with it. When we are younger, we might not engage in the process that plays this role very much unless our life circumstances require it or make it hard to use the supporting role process. Usually, in young adulthood we are attracted to activities that draw upon this process. The relief role often is how we express our creativity. It is how we are playful and childlike. In its most negative expression, this is how we become childish. Then it has an unsettling quality, and we can use this process to distract ourselves and others, getting us off target.

    If INTP… Si is a pretty good backup to Ti, but I’m not sure how I would express creativity through it. Sometimes it is childlike and gets me off target, like I get fixated on rote memorization or nostalgia trips…

    If ENTP, I am only beginning to understand how I use Fe. I pretty much avoided it most of my life but now that I am in young adulthood, it’s like I’ve been getting Fe slapped lately…. Realizing that I want to be part of groups and reveal myself to others and whatnot. There all along, but coming into conscious awareness, telling me to do things like starting clubs, solve problems for other people, and maybe try that whole charm thing so that people aren’t as scared of me But even now it doesn’t have the quality that it would in an xxFJ. It’s very childlike and kind of unstable, not in a manipulative sort of way but in an awkward and playful way.
    So, I do play around with facts/trivia and I play around with connecting with people/sharing stuff. But I don't have a big rowdy group of friends, and I don't think I ever did the whole manipulation thing.... unless you count the offering of cupcakes to get people to respond here


    Quote Originally Posted by skylights View Post
    INTP: individualist, more interested in intellectual pursuits than relationships, thoughtful about existence, likes esoteric things, disorganized, messy, likes science fiction, can be lonely, observer, private, can't describe feelings easily, detached, likes solitude, not revealing, unemotional, rule breaker, avoidant, skeptical, acts without consulting others, fantasy prone, appreciates strangeness, frequently loses things, guarded, more likely to support marijuana legalization, not prone to compromise, hard to persuade, relies on mind more than on others, calm.

    ENTP: risk taker, easy going, outgoing, social, open, rule breaker, thrill seeker, life of the party, comfortable in unfamiliar situations, appreciates strangeness, disorganized, adventurous, talented at presentation, aggressive, attention seeking, experience junky, insensitive, adaptable, not easily offended, messy, carefree, dangerous, careless, spontaneous, improviser, always joking, player, wild and crazy, dominant, acts without thinking, pro-weed legalization
    Ummm, are you sure the ENTP description isn't a little ESTP?

    Interesting descriptions there though. I don't know what degree to trust it though. The throwing in of weed legalization makes me especially skeptical...

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    I read somewhere awhile ago about how as we age, different functions come to the forefront. So maybe you are experiencing that a little bit as well.

    I will try looking it up and seeing what it says about xntp types.

    I vaguely remember my own where the n and f are developed early, then in my 20-30s I would develop my s traits more (shudder ) and lastly when I hit my 40-50s I should develop my t more.

    P.s. I like your Luna type! To the moon Alice!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LunaLuminosity View Post
    If you mean that I grew up in a rural area but was still a charismatic performer... no, not those circumstances at all. I had auditory processing problems and had issues in school to the point where some of my early teachers suspected I was mildly autistic. Sometimes when people would speak to me all I would hear was this gibberish, and I would want to respond to them but not know how to. I also didn't really understand the whole concept of initiating contact with other kids for a while.

    I would play together with them sometimes with things that didn't require speech as much, but sometimes I would play on my own. I remember this one time when I was seven and at recess the school psychologist was watching me play by myself and she asked why I was doing this. I responded "Well, I do want (so-and-so) to play." She asked "well, why don't you invite her to play?" My response was something along the lines of "I don't know. She doesn't like me (a.k.a., if she doesn't find me too weird, she will just join me)." As this indicates, I did have enough of an understanding of others to know that they found me to be too weird, but I think I took this to extremes. I would've liked to do stuff like perform and be admired, but I didn't think that was possible in my early years.

    I remember another incident around the same age when I was at some sort of family gathering thing/party and there was a place in the middle of the room where people danced but it was empty. My mom noted that I looked even more fidgety than usual and asked what was wrong. I responded "I want to go dance in the middle there." She responded "well then just go and do it then." I exclaimed "but there's no one else there so I'll get in trouble." "It is fine," she assured. But when I went out to the middle and started dancing a booming voice over a microphone called out a bunch of gibberish "Blah blah blah that kid blah blah blah." I ran back to my mom and exclaimed "I told you!"

    A few years later, there was the first clue that I could've actually been liked. I was making dolls out of these sticky sort of plants that I found and a couple of popular older girls spotted me doing this and said something like "OMG these are like so cute and creative. I so want one." And I was like "Seriously? (Someone actually likes one of my ideas?)" So then this led to a short time of basking in the admiration of this 5th grade clique by making all of them dolls. But this ended when I ran out of the sticky plants. I quickly pitched my idea of stick dolls to them when this happened but they explained "It's not the same, it's just not cool anymore." To which I thought "Psssh, who needs 'em? They don't know what cool is."

    Anyway, I'm not sure where I'm going with this anymore. I guess I was saying that it was some combination of auditory processing glitches and low self confidence that could've been inferfering, rather than environment.

    So, in this case, I don't have nearly the problems with auditory processing and confidence that I had when I was seven, but they are still there a little. But even though my home environment wasn't exactly the problem, I do plan on being a lot more "out there" when I move away for college. Perhaps I don't want my parents to know what mistakes I'll inevitably make by trying to actually engage people on a regular basis? I don't know, but I do think I'll be more of myself once I make the move. And I think that person will be better at communication and expression.
    Still sound like an ambivert, leaning towards the introvert side, and high on the "wanted" scale (want others more than you express to them).
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    Quote Originally Posted by LunaLuminosity View Post
    Ummm, are you sure the ENTP description isn't a little ESTP?

    Interesting descriptions there though. I don't know what degree to trust it though. The throwing in of weed legalization makes me especially skeptical...


    they're correlations. people who reported as I/ENTP also reported those things. i assume they asked type and then gave a survey to fill out.

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