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    Default Differences between ISFP and ISFJ?

    I am trying to figure out if someone is ISFP or ISFJ and I'm having trouble telling the difference. What are some things that come to mind for you?
    E - 79% I - 21%
    S - 53% N - 47%
    T - 32% F - 68%
    J - 32% P - 68%

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    It's pretty easy to tell them apart:

    ISFPs are artsy, less social and more interested in physical action and the present moment.

    ISFJs are very traditional, service oriented, past, traditional focused.

    ISFP vs. ISFJ is like painter vs. nurse

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forever_Jung View Post
    It's pretty easy to tell them apart:

    ISFPs are artsy, less social and more interested in physical action and the present moment.

    ISFJs are very traditional, service oriented, past, traditional focused.

    ISFP vs. ISFJ is like painter vs. nurse
    Yes, basically this. I've found ISFPs to be much more "fun" and experience driven than ISFJs, who are more duty driven.
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    What they're saying there are, pardon me, bullshit stereotypes.

    Andy freakin' Warhol was an ISFJ.

    My ex is a film collector and he's ESFJ.

    ISFJs can be artistic. Not all ISFPs are "fun." Some ISFJs have a highly developed sense of aesthetics, and some ISFPs are boring blobs who sit on the couch watching tv all day. The difference is Si/Fe and Fi/Se.

    ISFJs tend to like structure of some kind, and they are much more detailed people. This doesn't necessarily make them "traditional" though it often can if they were raised in a traditional environment. It just means they are more likely to be strongly affected by past patterns in their lives, whatever those patterns were. The Fe tends to make them "warmer" yet more role-centered about relationships.

    Fi/Se means that ISFPs tend to have their own quiet value system, they tend to be much less structured and more laid-back. The Se can make them impulsive at times, and even if they aren't artistic, rebellious, or edgy (they certainly can be) they at least tend to just kind of be like "whatever" instead of paying attention to detail and social roles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmie Dearest View Post
    Andy freakin' Warhol was an ISFJ.
    You really think so?

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    Absolutely. He was a controlling, structured person who formed systems in order to produce his art. Having an Fe social group was of utmost importance to him (The Factory) and he put a lot of importance on being fabulous, which also seems Fe to me, although in truth he as a person was rather withdrawn, plain, and shy.

    His art screams Si pattern and repetition, he said repeatedly that his art had no deeper meaning and seemed annoyed by implications that it had to have meaning (I total rule out NF and NT for this reason) and he was a devout Catholic who never missed mass despite the "sinful" lifestyle he was known for. The Campbell's soup he really did eat every day for lunch since he was a little boy (Si again), and apparently he died a virgin: ISFJ sexual guilt and adeherence to social roles.

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    You sound very well-read! If he's isfj, what's his enneatype?

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    Quote Originally Posted by candylandjoe View Post
    You sound very well-read! If he's isfj, what's his enneatype?
    I don't know. 1w2? 3w2? I'm not as knowledgable with enneagram.

    Unhealthy sexual variant of 3w2 'The Star'

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    I think there are complexities within every individual within each type, and exceptions to every rule, for sure. Just wanted to point that out...I generally try not to be a bullshit stereotypist.
    I think I think more than you think I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmie Dearest View Post
    I don't know. 1w2? 3w2? I'm not as knowledgable with enneagram.

    Unhealthy sexual variant of 3w2 'The Star'
    "Average 3/2 is the prototypical sales personality. The threeish desire to be admired is stronger than the twoish desire to please others, so it is more important to them that they look good than that they make others feel good, although they will do both if they can. Unlike the more withdrawn 3/4, they want to reach the largest possible audience. Threeish, mainstream attractiveness is flavored by twoish seductiveness, rather than fourish uniqueness.

    "3/2s usually want to be well-dressed, according to the top fashion of whatever social group they belong to. Their clothing is well-chosen and reflects the mainstream, not the fringes of fashion. They seldom let themselves become overweight. Makeup and jewelery are always well within the norms of their largest audience. Note, however, that some audiences like excess, and threes who are addressing such groups will meet their expectations. 3/2s possess a calm, cheerful social manner, always trying to show the best side. They want you to feel that they are emotionally together even if they aren't."

    http://mindheart.org/junction/oldcj/ep/types/3/32.html

    What do you think?

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