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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    it would help if you took a cognitive function test and posted the results
    OK... I'm not sure a test is a good way to measure these things, but there you go.

    extraverted Sensing (Se) **************** (16.1)
    limited use
    introverted Sensing (Si) ************************** (26.4)
    average use
    extraverted Intuiting (Ne) ************************************ (36.5)
    excellent use
    introverted Intuiting (Ni) ******************************** (32.3)
    good use
    extraverted Thinking (Te) ********************************** (34.4)
    good use
    introverted Thinking (Ti) *********************************** (35.3)
    good use
    extraverted Feeling (Fe) ************************ (24.3)
    average use
    introverted Feeling (Fi) ********************************** (34.3)
    good use

    "By focusing on the strongest configuration of cognitive processes, your pattern of responses most closely matches individuals of this type: INTP

    If these cognitive processes don't fit well then consider these types: ENTP, or INFP"

    I don't really think I'm an INTP, though... my Ti has some development, but it's not exactly my "core", I think.

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    ...Elfboy?

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    I looked over your recent post summarizing your questions. You sound like a Judger to me. Here are the things I noticed that lead me to think so:

    Quote Originally Posted by Viridian View Post
    I often find myself dubbed a "stick in the mud" or "rigid", because, though I'm not exactly Mr. Diligent towards schoolwork, I'm fussy and organized towards a lot of things ("plan" which books I'll read next, want to know how we'll spend the day during our vacation in advance, et cetera)
    I'm always thinking of the next step and, while I try my best not to interfere with anyone's plans, I desire to have some sort of control over my surroundings; that's part of why I thought I was an INTJ. I don't want to order people around, but I have an urge to draw certain boundaries.
    To my experience, INFJs impose structure on themselves rather than on others.

    Though I'm somewhat lazy, I sometimes unconsciously anchor my sense of self-worth to external elements (grades, for instance), and I'm quick to put myself down even when others think I'm better than I think I am (though I don't whine or wallow in self-pity, as that kind of annoys people and makes me feel too capricious and overemotional).
    While I procrastinate quite a bit when it comes to schoolwork, I try to finish everything before the deadline to avoid humiliation and stern looks from teachers (and, of course, bad grades), and the schoolwork keeps haunting my thoughts, to the point of dampening the enjoyment of other activities (it's gotten to the point where I decided to read "for fun" only during vacations).
    Even if you are a Judger, it doesn't necessarily mean you WANT to get schoolwork done in a timely fashion. It sounds to me like Judging is what makes you feel the OBLIGATION to.

    ...I have a bit of shimmering anxiety about me, not exactly like an Enneatype Six's, but more like a strategic configuration of my personal resources ("What will be asked of me in the future?") or a corcern with my performance ("Am I being too selfish? Too lazy? Too cold? Too high-strung?").
    Right now, I'm kind of "going with the plan" even though I'm unsure of whether journalism is a good career for me... I often ignore fleeting emotional states and keep my eyes on the (very blurry) "prize".
    I feel a tad uncomfortable if I don't know what time it is, and I insist on using my alarm clock even on weekends.
    ...I'm a pretty deliberate guy...


    All of these sound like Judging traits, so I think you must be an INFJ.

    I hope this sheds some light on your MBTI journey!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Viridian View Post
    ...Elfboy?
    based on these results, you seem like an INFP, but your results are shockingly balanced

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    Quote Originally Posted by pastel~petals View Post
    I looked over your recent post summarizing your questions. You sound like a Judger to me. Here are the things I noticed that lead me to think so:
    To my experience, INFJs impose structure on themselves rather than on others.
    That's funny - I've read that FJs were the meddlers of the MBTI (hence my previous Mary Worth parallels), even from at least one FJ (the aforementioned Vicky Jo). I may have to revise that concept...


    Quote Originally Posted by pastel~petals View Post
    Even if you are a Judger, it doesn't necessarily mean you WANT to get schoolwork done in a timely fashion. It sounds to me like Judging is what makes you feel the OBLIGATION to.
    That makes quite a lot of sense... I'm not that involved with my current subjects (Journalism-related stuff, in case you're wondering), but I fell guilty if I don't do my essays and whatnot.


    Quote Originally Posted by pastel~petals View Post
    All of these sound like Judging traits, so I think you must be an INFJ.
    I thought so... One of the INFPs, as mentioned before on this thread, also does the watch thing, though, so, I'm kinda unsure.

    Quote Originally Posted by pastel~petals View Post
    I hope this sheds some light on your MBTI journey!
    Thank you! Ditto to you.

    Hmmm... so far, 2 people think I'm INFJ, and 3-4 think I'm INFP, so I guess I must be either a pretty J-ish INFP or a pretty P-ish INFJ. Back to the drawing board...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    based on these results, you seem like an INFP, but your results are shockingly balanced
    Quod erad demonstratum. Well, time will tell, I guess (though I'm open for feedback! ); even if I stay away from cognitive function-related threads, I believe I'll have a very fun time in this forum.

    Thanks, Elfboy! Sorry for pestering you through PM, bud. Nice avatar!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Viridian View Post
    That's funny - I've read that FJs were the meddlers of the MBTI (hence my previous Mary Worth parallels), even from at least one FJ (the aforementioned Vicky Jo). I may have to revise that concept...




    That makes quite a lot of sense... I'm not that involved with my current subjects (Journalism-related stuff, in case you're wondering), but I fell guilty if I don't do my essays and whatnot.




    I thought so... One of the INFPs, as mentioned before on this thread, also does the watch thing, though, so, I'm kinda unsure.



    Thank you! Ditto to you.

    Hmmm... so far, 2 people think I'm INFJ, and 3-4 think I'm INFP, so I guess I must be either a pretty J-ish INFP or a pretty P-ish INFJ. Back to the drawing board...
    INFJs are one of the least J types and INFPs one of the least P. an INFJs first function is intuition, which right off the bat is not going to make one very J. an INFP's first function is Fi, which deals with integrity and personal values. take an INFP like Joan of Arc for instance. she seems pretty J-ish to me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    INFJs are one of the least J types and INFPs one of the least P. an INFJs first function is intuition, which right off the bat is not going to make one very J. an INFP's first function is Fi, which deals with integrity and personal values. take an INFP like Joan of Arc for instance. she seems pretty J-ish to me
    Interesting... I'd heard the first tidbit before (probably on this forum), but I've never heard the second one. NFPs are usually characterized as flighty, scatterbrained or unfocused - a mirror of sorts to the SPs' "hedonism".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Viridian View Post
    Interesting... I'd heard the first tidbit before (probably on this forum), but I've never heard the second one. NFPs are usually characterized as flighty, scatterbrained or unfocused - a mirror of sorts to the SPs' "hedonism".
    INFJs can be scatter brained too (and INTJs). INJs tend to have "mad scientist rooms" and usually will have one place that is their "lair" where they work on Ni stuff (at least, all the INFJs and INTJs I know do this, as wells as a few INFPs and INTPs). NJs are frequently as disorganized as Ps, but they do have an easier time organized when they need to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    INFJs can be scatter brained too (and INTJs). INJs tend to have "mad scientist rooms" and usually will have one place that is their "lair" where they work on Ni stuff (at least, all the INFJs and INTJs I know do this, as wells as a few INFPs and INTPs). NJs are frequently as disorganized as Ps, but they do have an easier time organized when they need to be.
    Maybe I used the wrong word... I meant scatterbrained as in, they're passionate about something until they get bored (i. e. in two minutes). It's most likely a sterotype, though, since I doubt Fi allows that much fickleness.

    I can really relate to the whole "lair" thing. That's something I kind of worry about when I think about moving out when I finish college - packing and unpacking my entire den.

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