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    Athenian, this is more of a hypothetical situation setup. Frequently, how someone reacts in a stress scenario, tells more about their type than their answers to direct questions per se. I was trying to figure out how he approached the problem, and the processes he relies upon to come to a decision.

    fyi, this was a real interview question I had.

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    That could account for some of our differences, too, since I am social.
    I got self-preservation first, so I'm a little wary of the E test.

    You could be borderline INTJ. But you've always read more INTJ to me somehow. Based on your response to the tribesman setup too actually.

    How'd you describe your sense of humour?

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    Well, you see, my answer to that question largely depends on how much of a friend this person is. Could you please specify?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metamorphosis View Post
    Sorry. I meant to put this one.

    ...or perhaps...
    Now those I agree with! Both used strategic inelligence to implement their visions. But this probably isn't the correct place for this discussion ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by aelan View Post
    You could be borderline INTJ. But you've always read more INTJ to me somehow. Based on your response to the tribesman setup too actually.

    How'd you describe your sense of humour?
    On enneagram tests, I usually score either sx/sp or sp/sx. My sense of humor is rather morbid, absurdist, and often with a tinge of satire.

    I have nothing wrong with being typed as INTJ, yet here are some things that would seemingly go better with INTP:

    * According to some, Js are left-brained and Ps right-brained.
    * I really seek no application whatsoever in my studies. I am into purely abstract things (such as pure mathematics) with little connection to physical reality. This, however, could be uber-Ni.
    * Of lesser importance, I am RATHER messy. But this is very unimportant.
    "The mathematician's patterns, like the painter's or the poet's must be beautiful; the ideas like the colours or the words, must fit together in a harmonious way. Beauty is the first test: there is no permanent place in the world for ugly mathematics..." - G.H. Hardy

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    Quote Originally Posted by aelan View Post
    I got self-preservation first, so I'm a little wary of the E test.
    I made this decision based on reading the descriptions, not taking the test. Although, I'm a major noob to the whole thing and could be off.
    "You will always be fond of me. I represent to you all the sins you never had the courage to commit."

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    than to serve and obey them. - David Hume

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    Quote Originally Posted by Merkw View Post
    On enneagram tests, I usually score either sx/sp or sp/sx. My sense of humor is rather morbid, absurdist, and often with a tinge of satire.

    I have nothing wrong with being typed as INTJ, yet here are some things that would seemingly go better with INTP:

    * According to some, Js are left-brained and Ps right-brained.
    * I really seek no application whatsoever in my studies. I am into purely abstract things (such as pure mathematics) with little connection to physical reality. This, however, could be uber-Ni.
    * Of lesser importance, I am RATHER messy. But this is very unimportant.
    Certainly Ni however INTJs seem to be more driven to implement changes/improvements than simply speculate about them.

    I agree with the messy statement. If you were an INTJ (not to imply that you aren't) and there were a logical reason to be neat then you would be neat. Otherwise neatness offers little ROI and thus is a waste of precious energy.

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    If you don't fit well with INTJ or INTP but resemble both, maybe you're an ISTP

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    Quote Originally Posted by Randomnity View Post
    If you don't fit well with INTJ or INTP but resemble both, maybe you're an ISTP
    Don't NFs usually try to recruit people?

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    Quote Originally Posted by aelan View Post
    Athenian, this is more of a hypothetical situation setup. Frequently, how someone reacts in a stress scenario, tells more about their type than their answers to direct questions per se. I was trying to figure out how he approached the problem, and the processes he relies upon to come to a decision.
    Oh, that's actually a good idea. I think I did that once with my understanding of certain functions. I was trying to figure out Fi vs. Fe or Si vs. Se, I think. I'm surprised I didn't recognize it.

    Out of curiosity, what did my dialog indicate?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Merkw View Post
    On enneagram tests, I usually score either sx/sp or sp/sx. My sense of humor is rather morbid, absurdist, and often with a tinge of satire.

    I have nothing wrong with being typed as INTJ, yet here are some things that would seemingly go better with INTP:

    * According to some, Js are left-brained and Ps right-brained.
    * I really seek no application whatsoever in my studies. I am into purely abstract things (such as pure mathematics) with little connection to physical reality. This, however, could be uber-Ni.
    * Of lesser importance, I am RATHER messy. But this is very unimportant.
    If we assume a good friend. But I'd rather prefer to take your first answer, as I'm serious that most INTPs wouldn't even answer to start with.

    Any whimsy to your humour? INTPs have a sense of whimsy. That's due to Ne being allowed room to play.

    Strange on the messiness. But how messy is your messy though. If you recall the thread on how does your house/living area look like, while you may not be as zen as Wolf's, but are you anywhere near Santtu's stage? That's a real P.

    The lack of application could just be because you've not found something that really interests you though, and is not indicative of a type. If anything, I'd be interested to hear your motivations for choosing to continue doing something you have no interest in - perhaps that'd shed more light.

    I'm not certain where the left and right brained thing comes from and if there's a real correlation.

    Athenian. my take on yours:
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    I can't imagine anyone choosing the first option. You'd almost have to go with packing up and flying out.

    Here's the dialog I imagine:

    Me: Ahh! What was that! (responding to the car bump)
    Them: I-I just hit someone!
    Me: Oh my god! (gets out of the car and checks)
    Me: It was a native. But do you realize how much trouble we'd be in right now if this had been a civilized person? We'd be stuck here in court, or possibly even prison. This is why you don't drink and drive, okay? Goodness, I can't believe you were so stupid!
    Them: Well, what are we going to do now?
    Me: What do you think? We're going to get the heck out of here before someone sees us. We'll pull the body over to the side of the road and try to make it look like he just collapsed for some reason. They probably won't know what did this as primitive as they are, and they're not likely to appeal to the larger legal system if they don't know an outsider caused this.
    Them: I'm sorry about this.
    Me: Yeah, me too. I just hope you understand what a terrible thing you've done and what could have happened to you, how much stress you're causing me, and that that's sufficient motivation to get you to stop drinking like this. Sigh. Let's just get out of here.
    *drive off*
    You show a similar evaluation of consequences right off the bat, but your way of bending the system is using what you understand of how people will react - there's your difference with Merkw - he worked with the system.

    Your focus when you reprimand your friend is values-based as well vs principles-based.

    I'm curious as your stress-point is due to the fact that the order was broken though.

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