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    Quote Originally Posted by Onceajoan View Post
    I'm not sure if you're referring to me ---it's a painting of Joan of Arc. I like it.

    The interesting thing is if he's actually ISTP (as Applied Orange suggested), he would also most likely be a 5 or 6.
    I was admiring P Diddy shrugging (he is gone now). What is your painting of exactly? I should've been more specific. Hmmmm, most people usually associate fives with NT's (this is not to say that it always is an NT, of course). I don't know much about enneagram specifics, but if ISTP's are known to have a rebellious streak and if that is found in 6's then we can connect the two and suggest him research it. Yes?

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    I'm quite confident that you're an ISTJ or ISTP. I'm not sure about your Enneagram type, but my guess is either 1w9, 7w6 or 6w5.

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    I get S because of the way you describe yourself through a chronological account of a typical day, describing what has happened in detail. Something about that also suggested SJ (introverted sensing - focusing on perceptions of past experience, especially facts & details), but come to think of it, Se people talk that way a lot also. I'd still suggest looking at ISTJ, but also ISTP.

    How familiar are you with the cognitive functions? That's the next step in deciding type if a profile doesn't easily pop out at you.
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    I never considered to have an S. This is very interesting. I must admit I am biased toward INTP and 5w4, but I don't think I have much anxiety or fear. If anything, I have anger, which would correlate to 9 (9w1 for me).

    I was told I was INFJ as well at INTPc. That one didn't jive at all with me.

    Since being told I might be ISTP, I've been looking up ISTP vs INTP Google results and Sensing seems to correlate with physical activity. I thought I'd talk about some of my life growing up, school life, and some other things.

    I'm the oldest of 6 kids. We had a 2 acre yard. My favorite things to do as a kid in the house were play NES (I'd use the Game Genie and it didn't take long until I read the manual and figured out you can make up your own codes by modifying some of the letters of the existing ones. I ended up trying every combination of codes I could and writing down the best ones), and later play RPGs, look stuff up online, and listen to music.

    When I was younger, I'd find the best, strongest stick I could find and go around the yard finding other sticks. I'd pick these up, toss them into the air, and hit them as close to the middle as I could and try to break them in half. I was the Starship Enterprise from TNG and my stick was my weapons. The other ships were other alien races and the type of tree determined the race. The trees were their space stations, which I couldn't attack. Only the ships. When a little piece of one would hit me, that would be their weapons, but it didn't do much damage and they rarely hit me because I was THAT GOOD. Some sticks like the evergreen ones were really flexible and took many hits to destroy. I'd hit those things a good 30 feet away each time. I'd spend hours doing that.

    Another thing similar was our garden. When we let it go, it would get weeds that grew to be at least 5 feet tall. I pretended I was a helicopter and the weeds I hit down with my stick were buildings in an enemy military base. Each type of weed was a building with a different function and each one I destroyed limited the functionality of that service in that area. We also had a rope swing that my dad put up and I'd pretend that was a knight or warrior of some type with a sword and I'd hit it and try to dodge it when it would come back. It really got me good sometimes. I thought I got pretty good at sword fighting that way.

    We had a large trampoline that we all loved to jump on. I made up the majority of the games for us to play and everyone loved them. The first was The Fall-Down Game. You run around the parameter of the trampoline (inside the springs) clockwise and try to catch up to the person in front of you. Once you do, you have to touch their back and they HAVE to fall down. You MUST trip over any part of any person in your way and fall down yourself. You cannot jump over anyone. Once you fall down, you have to wait for 5 seconds and then get back up and continue running, but you can't get up if any part of anyone is on top of any part of you. If there is, you must wait until they get up first. It was very fun.

    The next one was Rough Folder. I got the name from when we were folding clothes and I was feeling energetic and declared myself the rough folder and started folding clothes all forcefully. In Rough Folder the trampoline game, I'm always the rough folder and anyone else on the trampoline is against me. I have to remain on my hands and knees the whole time and the object is to get me onto my back with both my shoulders touching the trampoline. Most of the time I would outlast everyone else and they'd get tired and give up. I'd intentionally let them get me partially on my back just to get away from them and make them start over again.

    The last one was The Shoe Game. Everyone's shoes would go onto the trampoline and we'd have to jump around avoiding the shoes while trying to bounce them off. Getting hit resulted in one hit point of 10 being taken away and having to do a "bosze" (pronounced "bo" like "bow" - "sz" like the "si" in "vision"). A bosze is where you land sitting down and bounce back up to your feet. Getting hit while doing a bosze still counts as getting hit. Getting hit 10 times means you lose one of 3 lives and have to land on your back and back up. The game was the best during summer with the sprinkler under the trampoline.

    During school, I got only As and Bs for 5th and 6th grade. I got my first C in 7th, my first D in 8th, and my first F as a freshmen. It went downhill from there. In high school I averaged Cs and Ds. I'd fail the homework half of the grade because I had better things to do at home like play. I'd then worry about failing, feel overwhelmed by the daunting task of doing all the make-up work that would individually have a very small impact in raising my grade, and look forward to the tests so I could get As and Bs on them with minimal studying and significantly raise my grade with those. My favorite classes were helping the network administrator manage the network, P.E., and Art. My favorite sports are badminton and volleyball. Most of the other classes were boring and the only part I really enjoyed was listening to the teacher give the lecture. I didn't want to go out for any sports because I'd rather be at home, but I did join the track team for 7th grade and the 4 years of high school. 6:25 best mile, 11.9 best 100 meter, and 54 best 400. I tried going to a couple classes in college but lost interest and just dropped out.

    I love going on hikes and going up difficult terrain. I like jumping across large rocks in rivers. Whenever I'm walking and there's a curb by itself without a sidewalk connected to it, I walk along it and never fall, making it look easy.

    I've written several sci-fi/fantasy stories, similar to LOTR and the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy in nature. I played Uno a couple times and then made my own version of that, which everyone who's played loves and says it is much more fun than the regular one. I've also made my own card game based on that using regular poker cards called CIQ (currently version 2.3). I've been told by everyone who played it that it is awesome and very fun.

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    OK, after reading all of your posts in this thread....

    My current (and tentative) guess is ENTP.

    You said you're leaning toward INTP.


    Why do you see yourself as likely an Introvert?
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    Why an introvert? Because I definitely keep to myself most of the time. I always wait for someone else to say "hi" before I do and often wish they didn't see me so they wouldn't say it and make me have to say it. Not out of fear, just because it's bothersome. I usually score close to 100% introvert on tests. I wonder where you're getting E, N, and F when everyone else is seeing I, S, and T.

    Also, things that I think are traits of N:

    I love what-ifs. I'm always thinking of them. Like at work the other day, 2 completely unrelated computers had very similar but very unusual errors. I suggested that maybe our office was cursed and there was a real virus in there that infected computers that were brought in. Then I went on to talk about what if someone wrote a virus that actually infected the hardware and would transfer to any software on it.

    When listening to music, I usually make up what the lyrics could mean. Such as the song that goes "...so take, these broken wings, and learn to fly again..." I went up to my friend and said, "I've figured out what this song is talking about. There's a karate dojo or something and the sensai has this pair of broken wings that straps to your back. You'd think it would be hard to learn how to fly with normal wings, but imagine how hard it would be to learn to fly with broken ones! So, when a student is bad or makes a mistake, the sensai hands the wings to the student and says 'take these broken wings and learn to fly again' because the frustrating process of learning how to fly all over again with the broken wings is the punishment." People are always saying I come up with the weirdest things.

    I'm always going online to look something up that made me curious. Then while reading on that, something in there will draw me to look that up, then something in there will draw me away to that and so on. I once looked up black holes and read several articles about them just because they are interesting. The same with relativity. Or the largest number in the world. The origins of words is a big thing. I love trying to figure out where a word came from and then looking it up. Why is the sky blue?

    I'm often coming up with an idea about a device that should exist and someone saying, "then why don't you invent that and become rich?" Well, because that would be too much work and I don't know anything about how to make it and I'd rather just think of the idea.

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    Yeah, I'm pretty convinced you're ENTP or INTP.

    And since you seem more inclined to think you're Introverted, then I guess I'll go with INTP.
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    Meh, maybe I'll do a video of me talking. I've seen other people request that. Now I need to figure out what to talk about...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Idec Sdawkminn View Post

    I wonder where you're getting E, N, and F when everyone else is seeing I, S, and T.
    Well, I didn't really have much to go on when I gave my initial guess of ENTP or ENFP.

    In fact, I almost immediately changed it to ExxP, and mentioned that I was feeling pretty unsure.

    But more than anything, I was leaning toward ENTP, from the very beginning.

    I still have a slight feeling you're Extraverted, but it's hard to pinpoint why.

    I'm really uncomfortable trying to explain my intuitive impressions in detail. It feels artificial and inaccurate because I don't actually KNOW how or why I get these impressions.

    Trying to explain it is clumsy, at best.


    And since you know yourself better than anyone else, and you consider yourself strongly Introverted, I have no choice, really, but to assume you're right.


    Just remember though, if you decide you're ENTP in the future--I told ya so!
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    I'm still getting S, but I'd say ISTP now.....I suggest looking into the functions still. Every type has 4 main functions, with the middle two letters referring to their top 2.

    Both ISTP and INTP have dominant introverted Thinking (Ti). Some of the "curiosity" you describe actually sounds like Ti to me Introverted Thinking. You can read about the other functions on that site also.

    The INTP's 2nd function is extroverted iNtuition (Ne), and the ISTP's 2nd function is extroverted Sensing (Se). ISTPs certainly can be imaginative - people sometimes call both ISxPs the "iNtuitive Sensors" because their 3rd function is Ni (introverted iNtuition). If you look into all the functions, this will make sense .

    EDIT: ISTPs can definitely be enneagram 5 also.
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