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    Quote Originally Posted by ragashree View Post
    Seems like you still HAVE groups of friends, however... so your abrasiveness must not be enough to alienate them completely! Or is it only some who are bothered by it?
    I have a large and diverse group of friends, many of whom I've known most of my life...

    Most people accept it as part of the package.

    Most people don't deny that I tend to be right - they just think I'm an asshole.

    Albeit a likeable one, for the most part... (a la Walter Sobchak)

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    Quote Originally Posted by SillySapienne View Post
    I was private schooled and was primarily surrounded by Jewish liberal, intellectuals.
    In other words, she was surrounded by giant douchebags.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SillySapienne View Post
    He and I were raised differently.



    I was private schooled and was primarily surrounded by Jewish liberal, intellectuals.

    I was in Speech and Debate, I was the president of my high school's JSA chapter, and I won the SoCal regional award/gavel for best speaker in my non-impromptu debate.

    The debate I love is one that reveals a better understanding to all parties involved, no personal attacks, just thoughts spoken, and points negated when they are in fact false and can be proven so.

    But, I only debate when I believe in what I am debating, I will always concede when I learn that I was wrong in a previously held belief.

    And, I cannot STAND those who debate with the intention to WIN.

    We engage in discourse and debate to LEARN, and GROW, not win.

    I think you are ENFP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post

    (I was raised in the G.A.T.E. [Gifted and Talented Education] program in the California Public School System.)

    (There was always an air of proving your intelligence over others, particularly among the boys.)

    But I am considered the abrasive asshole amongst my groups of friends (from childhood friends, to college friends, to post-college friends).
    Hahahahaaa, my ex Dana was in GATE, and he went to UCLA, but he sure as shit wasn't intellectually competitive, not at all.

    He was an F, though.

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    'Cause you can't handle me...

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    Why is this thread still active?

    I already voted. Case closed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    I have a large and diverse group of friends, many of whom I've known most of my life...

    Most people accept it as part of the package.

    Most people don't deny that I tend to be right - they just think I'm an asshole.

    Albeit a likeable one, for the most part... (a la Walter Sobchak)
    A likeable asshole, kinda reminds me of a lickable one...

    Anyhow, two questions for ya.

    One: Do you think you are more cocky than confident?

    Two: What are your thoughts on humility, especially intellectual humility.


    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    In other words, she was surrounded by giant douchebags.

    My father was a Libertarian giant douchebag, but other than him, I was surrounded, more or less, by wonderful people.

    I feel blessed for having the opportunity to have such an ideal, dare I say Utopian, educational upbringing.



    I miss that environment. :sad:

    So many diversely intelligent blokes and blokettes.

    Such a culture clash/learning experience/slap in the face when I left my insulated world and left for college in Boulder.

    I had no idea people were that stupid, I honestly didn't.
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    'Cause you can't handle me...

    "A lie is a lie even if everyone believes it. The truth is the truth even if nobody believes it." - David Stevens

    "That that is, is. That that is not, is not. Is that it? It is."

    Veritatem dies aperit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Night View Post
    Why is this thread still active?

    I already voted. Case closed.
    now, Night, that's no way to go

    wait until everyone votes the same way as you do

    then you can be all "yeah! look it, when i said I was right,"


    that plan requires the thread to be open, however

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    Quote Originally Posted by Qre:us View Post
    I think you are ENFP.
    So do I.



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    Quote Originally Posted by PeaceBaby View Post
    K my real vote, rather than silly posts:

    ENTJ, close on the E / I, close on the S / N.
    I find this conclusion funny, as N is the one quality that the tests say I most strongly identify with (~70%).

    In college, I remember my favorite professor writing on one of my papers, "You certainly have a predilection for abstract thinking."

    And, lastly, what does S/N balance even mean, necessarily?

    - That, if I were an Ni-dom, that I'd also be close to being an Si-dom?
    - Or that, if I'm an Ni-dom, that might Se-inferior is well-developed?

    It could really be looked at either way...

    As for my E/I balance: on the tests it always come out about 50/50, but I've never gone over 50% extroversion, while I generally do go over 50% for introversion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    Perhaps I'm a bit of an individualist, but I don't think the people who I grew up with exhibit this same trait...

    (although fiery, tooth-and-nail, grind-it-out, no-holds-barred debate was a significant feature of my childhood friends' and my playtime.)

    (I was raised in the G.A.T.E. [Gifted and Talented Education] program in the California Public School System.)

    (There was always an air of proving your intelligence over others, particularly among the boys.)
    That does actually make a LOT of sense. Intelletctual competitiveness sounds like it was the social norm (as one would expect in such a situation really).

    Quote Originally Posted by SillySapienne View Post
    He and I were raised differently.



    I was private schooled and was primarily surrounded by Jewish liberal, intellectuals.
    Ha, yes, I would expect intellectual qualities and tolerance of others to be encouraged in those circumstances then. Now, if on the other hand you'd grown up among a different subset of privilege, such as "WASP" kids with parents in the business world and giant trust funds...?
    Look into my avatar. Look deep into my avatar...

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