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    Hello everyone, I recently done the MBTI test, I did it in the past too but didn't really care much about it.

    So.

    My issue is that I do not really know if I am a 'thinker' or a 'feeler'.
    I am very extraverted very intuitive and very perceiving. Can't really remember the percentages, but they were over 60. My thinking/feeling is pretty close, or not?

    I can't be both can I?
    Though I act as I might be a little from both.

    I have this habit of doubting everything, and questioning everything so I guess this pretty much applies to my MBTI type too : )).

    So if I am an ENFP then 'Your secondary mode is internal, where you deal with things according to how you feel about them'. (from personalitytype.com)
    What does that mean? That I should feel something about everything? It just sounds weird.

    I understand that feeling and thinking in the MBTI is about how you decide.
    Am I subjective or objective?
    I am both.
    How can one not be subjective?
    How can one not be objective?

    I am an 'idea' person, and a 'people' person.
    I like psychology more than any other science. But that doesn't mean I don't like science.
    I like computers, did a little programming, I mostly like theoretical stuff.
    Some call the ENTP the 'inventor' which is kinda dumb actually. Not all ENTPs are inventors?!

    A includes B, but that doesn't mean B includes A.

    Well. The main idea is that I like people more than other sciences, more then computers, but there are periods when I like technology more than people.

    I think introverted. The ENFP thinks mostly extraverted?
    Which is kinda weird for me....?! ... I need to be alone at home, where I can think.

    I really like experimenting stuff, discovering stuff, and then thinking about that, 'connecting the dots', and getting a theoretical idea.

    So it's like this.

    Interaction fist.
    Introspection second.

    I am not compassionate. I hate it when people do that. I would rather fix the damn thing rather than feel sorry about what happened to someone.

    For example.

    There is a flood.
    Instead of feeling sorry BUILD A DAM, so you prevent future floods. Stop feeling sorry and do something about it.

    There is a flood right now in my country and the stupid media is dramatizing everything, showing people cry and stuff, but no, they don't build a stupid dam, which for me is the same as not caring.

    Why feel sorry for something when you can actually FIX IT!!

    Well now that I think more about it I sound more ENTp.

    I argue. I really love doing that. It's fun.

    I have an idea. When I do feel something, it's so unusual, I sometimes get overwhelmed. So I start questioning everything.

    Like I'm doing now.

    I guess I solved this by myself : )))).

    Still.

    I might like people because they are more interesting. A computer will never be more interesting than a person, because the person invented the damn thing in the first place.

    So I like interesting.

    That sounds ENTp I guess.

    Ok.

    I'll still post this, maybe there's someone else questioning T/F and they'll find some useful stuff here.

    I can't get the flood out of my head.

    How can anyone feel sorry for the flooded people, but nobody builds a dam.
    I guess it's easier to feel sorry. And more expensive to help.

    Feeling sorry does not help.

    Now that I think a little more about it how could I consider myself a feeler?!
    An 'idealist' ?

    Doubting everything is annoying.

    Although doubting IS improving. How can you improve something if you do not doubt it? If you take it as it is.

    Doubting makes you decide slower, so it has good aspects and bad aspects.

    So here you have it... the reason I posted this.
    I doubted and I needed to think for myself.

    I am ENTP. lol

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    Well, for one, yes. You can be both. I'm ExTP, because I use Ne functions just as much as Se.

    And you're pretty much a thinker, by what you said.

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    A lot of tests, particularly the ones that measure dichotomously, should be taken with a pinch of salt. I'd learn what an ENTP is functionally and see if it fits you best.

    But yeah, you sound like an ENTP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tawanda View Post
    Well, for one, yes. You can be both. I'm ExTP, because I use Ne functions just as much as Se.
    What!? No, you can't. If you believe this, then you don't recognize typology.

    The functions exist around certain requirements. This "x" defeats the function theory. In addition, it's not about "using" functions it's about levels of preference.

    MBTI(Y) is from Jungian Psychology(X). You can't have Y without X because that would be destroying the premise, thus, nullifying the latter MBTI simplifications---destroying the entire system.

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    yeah...i gotta agree. according to the functions test i use ni and fe too...and se actually a bit but i don't prefer it...it is not default mode....i also relate a lot to the entp profile...i would almost consider myself more of an idea or inventor person than an advocate...but i'm clearly an enfp.
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    I think the build a dam example demonstrates that you are not an ENFP.

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    the amount of rationality and lack of people-talk in your first post made me think

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    but, like a good T, you deduced that yourself first

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    Quote Originally Posted by Craft View Post
    What!? No, you can't. If you believe this, then you don't recognize typology.

    The functions exist around certain requirements. This "x" defeats the function theory. In addition, it's not about "using" functions it's about levels of preference.

    MBTI(Y) is from Jungian Psychology(X). You can't have Y without X because that would be destroying the premise, thus, nullifying the latter MBTI simplifications---destroying the entire system.
    omg someone thinking outside the box call the motherfucking cops

    call samuel jackson too while youre at it

    he's gotta deal with these motherfucking snakes on this motherfucking plane

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aleksei View Post
    omg someone thinking outside the box call the motherfucking cops

    call samuel jackson too while youre at it

    he's gotta deal with these motherfucking snakes on this motherfucking plane
    If you're implying that the notion of having "X's" means "thinking outside of the box", then sure..but it also mean thinking within a different theory---outside of Jungian typology. Having innate preferences is one of cognitive functions fundamentals, without it there would be no "EISNTFPJ". In which case, it must build a new foundation separate from the cognitive functions. Which means that either that poster has had his own ground-breaking ideas and sound logic or he lacked awareness of the system he subscribed to. The latter seems evident, thus, this is not a case of "thinking outside of the box". This is thinking that 1 + 1 = 2.

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    We still gotta deal with the snakes on the fucking plane, man.
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