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    Quote Originally Posted by marmalade.sunrise View Post
    Thanks for the run down...yeah I do seem INFP borderline extrovert for a lot of reasons...and another thing that occured to me is that I developed Si first...I may rely on Te a lot now, but I was much more in touch with Si at a much younger age, then became conscious of emerging Te in my late teens.

    Also, Si appears to be a "comfort" function for me, which apparently is indicative of tertiary rather than inferior, which supports your theory that I reject "bad" Te more strongly because it's my inferior.
    Another way to look at it is what function is "in charge" and which function "supports".

    INFP - Ne is the lieutenant that's interacting with the world. Fi is the general that's in charge working from behind the scenes in the tent.

    ENFP - Ne is in charge. It's the general and it's out on the front line interacting with the world. Fi is the lieutenant, supporting from behind the scenes in the tent.

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    NFs can be in tune with their bodies and their physical environment. Many of us use inferior Se etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by highlander View Post
    Another way to look at it is what function is "in charge" and which function "supports".

    INFP - Ne is the lieutenant that's interacting with the world. Fi is the general that's in charge working from behind the scenes in the tent.

    ENFP - Ne is in charge. It's the general and it's out on the front line interacting with the world. Fi is the lieutenant, supporting from behind the scenes in the tent.
    Well the argument for me being an extrovert is that I am more affected by my environment, intiate contact with others, ummm...and a lot of times I see Fi-dom thinking as limited as in cases of people unwilling to consider view points or opinions of others or how other people might view their behavior at all...I mean, I'm pretty damn Fi...but I do value having that outer perspective, or that way of sort of...testing reality against others.

    eNFP? AARRRRRGGGH.

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    what's wrong with being an enfp tho?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady X View Post
    what's wrong with being an enfp tho?
    there's nothing at all wrong with being enfp

    I'm just thinking I use more Si than some enfps or that I want more space from people

    and I started this thread to begin with because others kept suggesting that I was a sensor

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    Quote Originally Posted by marmalade.sunrise View Post
    I've heard repeatedly from several users that they believe I am SF instead of NF.

    My evidence to support this would be:

    1) My primary love languages appear to be touch and acts of service rather than words.

    2) On the mindframes test, I scored as "sensitivity" which appears to describe an Sensing Feeling personality rather than an iNtuitive Feeler.

    3) I have a strong love of atmospheric films, and prefer a great deal of poetic sensory detail in literature which can override my need for analysis.

    4) I do seem to be somewhat more in touch with my body than some Ns, and don't feel as much of a divide between myself and sensing feelers in particular.

    5) A lot of times I express emotion from a visceral level, like just crying and experiencing grief and letting it all out, then moving on ... or getting angry and getting over it, rather than stewing or dwelling or pondering how I should handle those emotions. I prefer the express it/move on way of living vs. mulling over bad feelings and stretching it out...

    6) I have some sort of issue with people denying their more "animal" nature, and in fact love animals sometimes more than people, though that could just be an Fi value and not necessarily a sensor thing?

    7) An increasing impatience with formal education, a type of ADD, and resistence against anything too analytically dry and theoretical that doesn't relate directly to people...though that last part could just be NF vs. NT, right?

    My evidence against this would be:

    1) xSFx people in my life telling me I'm overly analytical or think too much.

    2) A particular academic strength in literary analysis and writing which I excelled at while in university classes, and a strong draw toward fiction, although I also often enjoy reading more fact-based biographies, history, and psychology books, and enjoy books/movies based on "real events".

    3) While good at things like swimming and dancing, I have really poor hand-eye coordination and could totally get hit in the face with a baseball if I seriously tried to play team sports.

    4) Drifting off in daydreams, and spending a lot of time on-line.

    5) What if, what if, what if....

    6) Fitting the stereotype of an NF in other ways
    I have felt like the ENFP type doesn't quite fit you (maybe ESFP?). But its just an impression that I can't really provide evidence for. I don't want to question this too much because you probably know better than any of us and it isn't nice to make people justify their type fit.

    I wasn't just thinking you might be a sensor but maybe that you might be a thinker... Do you know what percentages you come up with for each function? Maybe you're borderline in several areas and it create confusion.

    Anyway my SF friend is rather analytical, daydreamy and bad at sport
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    Quote Originally Posted by marmalade.sunrise View Post
    Well the argument for me being an extrovert is that I am more affected by my environment, intiate contact with others, ummm...and a lot of times I see Fi-dom thinking as limited as in cases of people unwilling to consider view points or opinions of others or how other people might view their behavior at all...I mean, I'm pretty damn Fi...but I do value having that outer perspective, or that way of sort of...testing reality against others.

    eNFP? AARRRRRGGGH.
    Well, I think you have to have a preference.

    Maybe an example would help. INTJ is Ni, Te, Fi, Se. When I have had the occasional doubt, I go back to the question of, "who is in charge?" What do I lead with? When I consider it, I conclude that I lead with these "hunches" or "intuitions." Always. Logic or rational thinking comes afterwards. I'm a dominant perceiver.

    So, the question is really where you go first for answers? What is your first instinct? Ne or Fi? Do you lead with:
    Ne - perceiving connections and relationships between things in the real world
    Fi - assessing or judging things based on your own personal value system

    Think about some situations where you're going through the thought process of arriving at a decision on something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marmalade.sunrise View Post
    there's nothing at all wrong with being enfp

    I'm just thinking I use more Si than some enfps or that I want more space from people

    and I started this thread to begin with because others kept suggesting that I was a sensor
    That's how I see it.

    Also..one observation: Even when ENFPs who get introverted, and talk about feeling out of place don't seem to bring "Fi" type of discomforts to the forefront. They usually mention something about feeling misunderstood or being made to feel they say weird things (Ne).

    Both NFPs can reflect about both don't get me wrong, but I wonder if there's something there that reflects functional preference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KDude View Post
    That's how I see it.

    Also..one observation: Even when ENFPs who get introverted, and talk about feeling out of place don't seem to bring "Fi" type of discomforts to the forefront. They usually mention something about feeling misunderstood or being made to feel they say weird things (Ne).

    Both NFPs can reflect about both don't get me wrong, but I wonder if there's something there that reflects functional preference.
    Interesting points to consider...!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Kross View Post
    I wasn't just thinking you might be a sensor but maybe that you might be a thinker... Do you know what percentages you come up with for each function? Maybe you're borderline in several areas and it create confusion.
    LOL...so maybe Im that fucked up STJ that slowriot mentioned, after all, who is rejecting Te and thinking I'm an NFP...

    I also saw someone say ENTP in this thread....so does that mean I'm actually just exerting Ne/Te a lot on the board, kind of a warped mimicking of ENTP behavior?

    Anyway my SF friend is rather analytical, daydreamy and bad at sport

    Thanks for the input.

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