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    I get a Si vibe. There's a literal, concrete feeling to your OP. I don't think ISTJ is unlikely. There is an "ISTJ who resembles an NT" vibe about you. I've met a lot of ISTJs like that, ones who aren't the stereotypical "guardian" ISTJ.
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    One of the reasons I suspect I can't be ISTJ is because I have basically no Te (at least not according to any descriptions of the function that I've read. That test may not point in the same direction). I don't recognize Si in myself, either, but I've heard that people can't recognize their dominant function when it's described to them, which instinctively makes sense to me. So could I be an Si Ti ISTJ? I don't think that's possible... which is why I think ISFJ still makes sense, if I'm indeed an SJ. Si Fe Ti Ne ... though I seem to have no Fe either hahaha.

    Also, I'm not sure the OP is representative of how I usually write. I tried to make it more sequential for the sake of readability. Not sure how well that worked .

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    I haven't read anything on this thread other than your first post, but I believe you are likely ISTP.

    ISTP - Introverted Thinking with Sensing

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    sounds like ENTJ or ESTJ
    why do you hate children?

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    They are too noisy and they run around screaming. There's no way I could pay attention to one enough to raise it. But I don't mind if other people actually parent their children and do a good job. It's just so rare these days. Most people prefer to let their kids run wild.

    I am an "I" and I have no Te

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    Quote Originally Posted by penny89 View Post
    Hello, I just joined up because I'm very interested in personality theory/ typology, yet still confused about my own type. I've taken the MBTI with my college's career counseling but I haven't yet seen the results. I also took Keirsey's second temperament sorter out of his book, Please Understand Me II. On that test, scored Ixxx -- strong I, and the rest were pretty much on the border. I think I had about 60% N. I've taken other tests online, but I can't find a cognitive process one. On the regular 4-letter tests, I've scored ISFJ mostly. But again, all the dimensions except Introversion were close.

    So, I assumed I was an ISFJ, but then I read through the type's various descriptions, including Keirsey's (one of the few that doesn't treat the ISFJ as a dumb doormat character). Then I realized some of the more fundamental attributes of the type don't fit me well at all. For example,
    "So,...", "Then...", "For example..." vote for Ti
    I don't have much of a desire for safety and security. I have very little sense of loyalty or duty, and I don't feel responsible to/for anyone. (And I HATE children, I intend to get sterilized asap and never have them.
    vote against F and for INTP
    ) I don't really think I have any obligations at all, I just follow my interests
    - Se
    , which change but still remain constant
    +P
    . Well, that's confusing. I meant they change within one larger field, and the field is what remains constant. The one thing I can't usually do well is express things sequentially. I have very little sense of morality
    -F
    . I don't see things as "right" and "wrong", it is all contextual/situational for me.

    I am also very unreliable. I don't expect people to be there for me, but I don't want to have to be there for other people
    -Si
    . When others get emotional, I get very uncomfortable because I've realized that crying people don't want my potential solutions, they want sympathy I can't provide
    -F
    . I can't even tell what I'm feeling most of the time
    -F
    . I am not sarcastic normally but when angry or under pressure, I can really piss people off with my sarcasm
    -F
    .

    Also, I don't believe that something is better than a new idea just because it worked last time
    +Ne
    . I don't necessarily respect something more just because it was done before
    + NeTi
    . A track record of excellence alone does not, to me, guarantee excellence in the future
    +Ni
    . And also, I don't necessarily want guarantees, as I trust my ability to find a way out if something goes wrong, WHEN it goes wrong. I don't need certainty, and I've accepted that even my best ideas cannot be airtight anyway
    + TiJ
    . Something will crash and burn at some point, and the best I can do is rebuild and correct my course along the way
    +P
    . I am fine with that. I think we either control everything or nothing anyway
    -S, +Ti
    , because the things we don't control can just conspire against us in a manner that derails our plan -- so we essentially have no absolute control. I am also fine with that. (So I don't sound very J, do I?)

    One part of the ISFJ description that fits me perfectly is the tendency to be seen as stiff and cold. However, I would not say that these perceptions are completely wrong. I don't think I am "warm hearted" inside. I am shy, though, and I don't like talking to people and socializing
    -F
    . Most people irritate me with their prattling about what they did last weekend, what they saw on TV, how so-and-so did x, y, and z. I can't keep up with that type of conversation and I don't care for it
    +INTP
    .

    Actually there's another part about our frugality and the whole "good with money" thing. That's very true of me. I'm not good with money for the sake of it, though, I just tend to not desire things that cost money. I am just naturally cheap, haha. It's not because I am worried about the future. I guess this is similar to the duty part -- I don't think it's my duty to save money, and I don't feel obligated to do so, I just naturally end up being that way, which is similar to following an interest (not literally).
    -S, -Te, +Ti

    Anyway, I realize this is long
    +Ni
    , but I'm really confused about my type, as you can see. Please help me! Thanks in advance for your time.
    Totaly: +Ti, -S, -F, +Ne, +P -> INTP

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhinocub
    Quote Originally Posted by penny89
    ) I don't really think I have any obligations at all, I just follow my interests
    - Se
    How is that not Se? I'm not saying it definitively is Se, but.

    Quote Originally Posted by rhinocub
    Quote Originally Posted by penny89
    I am fine with that. I think we either control everything or nothing anyway
    -S, +Ti
    How is that -S? It could just as easily be SP as NP

    Quote Originally Posted by rhinocub
    Quote Originally Posted by penny89
    Most people irritate me with their prattling about what they did last weekend, what they saw on TV, how so-and-so did x, y, and z. I can't keep up with that type of conversation and I don't care for it
    +INTP
    -SF, maybe. The SFs I know really like that kind of "conversation" (they are the people irritating me, usually). Doesn't that kind of prattling annoy you too, as an ESTP?

    Quote Originally Posted by rhinocub
    Quote Originally Posted by penny89
    Actually there's another part about our frugality and the whole "good with money" thing. That's very true of me. I'm not good with money for the sake of it, though, I just tend to not desire things that cost money. I am just naturally cheap, haha. It's not because I am worried about the future. I guess this is similar to the duty part -- I don't think it's my duty to save money, and I don't feel obligated to do so, I just naturally end up being that way, which is similar to following an interest (not literally).
    -S, -Te, +Ti
    How is that -S, unless you literally interpreted "not literally" to mean "not S", . I could agree with -Te, maybe.

    Thanks for taking the time to dissect my post, though.

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    Se takes any obligatory easily.
    Se tries to control everything everywhere every-time. Se understands itself there are no full controllable nor full uncontrollable situations.
    The SFs I know really like that kind of "conversation" (they are the people irritating me, usually). Doesn't that kind of prattling annoy you too, as an ESTP?
    Yeah, sure )) I just try to confuse them by Ti )) SF's pressure is somewhat!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhinocub View Post
    Se takes any obligatory easily.
    Se tries to control everything everywhere every-time. Se understands itself there are no full controllable nor full uncontrollable situations.
    Yeah, sure )) I just try to confuse them by Ti )) SF's pressure is somewhat!!
    Alright, well, I'll have to take your word for it about Se. Thanks for the clarification. It would seem to me that Te is more desiring of control than Se is, but anyway.

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