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    Default ENTJs: how would you characterize your extroversion?

    I've been trying to type a friend who is definitely XNTJ. I thought he was INTJ because he's fairly quiet and reserved but he lacks that far-out aspect that seems to characterize the few INTJs I've known. Anyway, I'm so used to EXXP types with their life-of-the-party, thrill-a-minute extroversion that I wondered if ENTJ extroversion could be characterized differently (I don't think I know any other ENTJs). My friend is quiet, focused, responsible, hardworking, family-oriented, and a good listener, but not shy -- he's just not the center of attention or constantly engaged in self-promotion the way a lot of the EXXPs I know are. Also, ENTJs are usually described as CEO material, but my friend is, although a little bit of a control freak, not really the type to jump in and take charge -- although he's certainly capable if need be. So I'd love to hear from ENTJs as to whether you see yourselves as the life of the party or more reserved than other extroverts of your acquaintance.

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    well.
    I define myself as having more of an ENTJ essence, but I always score INTJ( mainly due to my dislike of people/social encounters). From what I read, I can relate A LOT to the description of your friend, although, I tend to change around my bestfriends where I am more comfortable with the social situation at hand. I am the " jump in and take charge" kind of person, even when I don't want to, I always end up being selected as the leader of whatever is happening and even though at times it's frustrating, I overall enjoy it....( my ENTJ side), your friend does not seem to enjoy that part, which is mainly what defines an ENTJ (Executive/Leader/"Over Lord [lol]").

    There are a lot of INTJ's that also like being leaders and taking charge, but not often...

    Being an INTJ doesn't necessarily mean that they lack social skills, although it is common, I, however do not lack them, nor do my INTJ friends. INTJ's get drained when having to be/deal with others.

    Your friend sounds more INTJ ,than ENTJ.

    Have you asked him to take the test, that might just dissolve your curiosity.

    I'm sorry I'm not much help, I have a hard time defining which " type" I would theoretically fit into more; and there are members on this forum that know plenty more than I do on these theoretical types... ><

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    I'm definitely not a reserved person. While sometimes I may think of myself as shy, when other people describe me always mention how I'm extremely extraverted and sociable. Of course I'm not as in-your-face as an ESFP or ESTP, but I'd never be mistaken for an I type.
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    Weird, people always mistake me for an I, unless I am in a silly mood.

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    ENTJs prefer social interaction to isolation. They're very businesslike being that they are NTJs, so they're not exactly too big into parties, but they're the type to jump in and take charge of any given situation. Your friends sounds like an introvert.
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    Maybe I've mischaracterized him somewhat. He coaches his kids' soccer team, he's always willing to take on whatever project he's handed at church and he seems to carry quite a bit of responsibility at home since his wife has health problems. YoureWrongImRight, I think you've actually helped because of the ambivalence of your response -- I'm so used to ENTP/ESTP types and their center-stage, full-throttle approach to things that it shook my world view up a little to think there might be other and equally (or even more) expedient forms of extroversion. I think I've only ever known one INTJ, and although he was very successful professionally (ie he made a boatload of money) there was still something otherworldly, for lack of a better term, about him. My XNTJ friend is about as regular-guy as you can get. I guess this isn't so much a need to type somebody as an intriguing mental puzzle for me about the nature of EXXP extroversion and EXXJ extroversion.

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    I have often thought NTs in general would appear more I than say your extroverted S type. The temperament itself leads to more analytical alone time and a calmer disposition.

    My extroversion works like this. People, socializing, hanging out energizes me. When that happens, I want to be left alone so I could run with the momentum. Whether working on my personal projects, or work, school, whatever. I prefer to use my energy spurts in solitude, as usually tagging others along slows me down and kind of ruins it.

    If that makes any sense.

    So I chill out with people, then use the extroverted momentum to go get my own shit done. People mistake me for an I a lot.

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    Makes a lot of sense, ThatGirl, especially if you follow Keirsey and his classification of perceivers as more oriented toward expediency and judgers as more community-oriented. I'm coming to the conclusion that introversion and extroversion are the two least understood aspects of personality -- not to mention the two most misunderstood!

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    Default ENTJ EXTROVERSION - DEFINED BREIFLY

    Too many mixed answers.

    TO GIVE you a more clear, complete, and concise picture an ENTJ's extrovert function, let me briefly explain how being and "extrovert" fits into the ENTJ's interpretation.

    1) WE HATE, AND DO NOT INTERACT WITH STUPID PEOPLE OR PEOPLE WHO ACT LIKE WILD ANIMALS

    Due to this, they can sometimes be generally regarded as "reserved" in certain situations.

    For example, in my math class I must unfortunately spend 60 minutes of my precious time with a bunch of lunatics that interrupt the class, have no respect of life in general, every topic of discussion relates to either "the next badass party" or "how great yesterday's blunt was", are jumping off the walls and having a blast making up sensless jokes and remarks.

    These are people who's future is already beyond the point of no return, who don't have the slightest clue about what it means to be "successful" and just don't get anything other than what it means to "have a great time, all the time."

    I personally am energetic, like to party, drink, etc... But in my world there's a limit - and going on about that 24/7 4LIFE is beyond that limit.

    TO SUCH PEOPLE, it would be a personal disgrace, defamation of my reputation, personal insult, and complete waste of my breath - if I mentioned a word to them, yet if possible - carry a conversation.

    2) WE MAKE FRIENDS EASY, AND WE STRIKE UP GREAT CONVERSATIONS LIKE NOTHING - HOWEVER, LONG, LONG, LONG, CONVERSATIONS AND LONG TERM INTERACTION IS NOT OUR PRIMARY TALENT - WE SPEAK WELL, AND IN BRIEF

    ENTJ's take the trophy when it comes to small talk regardless of who he/she is speaking to. We are charismatic, sophisticated, articulate, humorous and cram a bunch of "goodies" into a 10-15 minute conversation - anything beyond may deplete our time and communication inventory.

    We are great long term communications with people you see every day (co workers, peers, friends), ONLY AS SUCH as those individuals are not lunatics and savage animals as previously mentioned - and are people that share similar interests, theories, and goals.

    We can also communicate with mindless fools who LOVE self-destructive habits and are dumb enough to not know where they are headed in life, however, the resources we invest in such relationships/situations is limited - with complete isolation or being "reserved" as an option to surrender fostering their foolishness.

    3) ENTJ's DON'T CARE WHAT OTHERS THINK, THEY SPEAK THEIR MIND AT THEIR DISCRETION. WHETHER YOU LIKE WHAT ENTJ HAS TO SAY OR NOT - IS YOUR PERSONAL AGENDA. EVEN IF YOU, A BUNCH OF PEOPLE, OR THE WHOLE WORLD DOESN'T LIKE IT - WE GENUINELY AND HONESTLY FEEL NOTHING, AND CARE ZERO

    For example, if I say obamacare's bill is "good for you now" but "your impending disaster latter" --- and someone disagrees - I would LOVE IT and IT WOULD MAKE MY DAY. Because there are two modes of living: the truth, and what you believe.

    The TRUTH is:

    There exists factual data and evidence pointing that the health care bill is an economicaly detrimental sanction, requiring billions of dollars (from your tax tab), and will impede the progression of our exodus from this recession.

    Employers will have do deduct 5-16% of their employees paychecks ON TOP OF ALL THE OTHER TAXES, as an obligation for obamacare. THEN -- THE EMPLOYERS (JUST LIKE FICA/SS TAX) MUST MATCH THAT DEDUCTED AMOUNT AND PAY IT FROM THEIR OWN POCKETS, APART FROM THE ALREADY DEDUCTED EMPLOYEE AMMOUNT. HENCE "DOUBLE TAXATION" - THE EMPLOYEE GETS FREE HEALTH INSURANCE, BUT GETS AN 15% "HEALTH INSURANCE" DEDUCTION JAMMED UP HIS ASS AND THE EMPLOYER GET'S FUCKED FROM BEHIND AS WELL.

    THEN -- EMPLOYERS CAN'T AFFORD THE SOCIALIST PURLOINS SO THEY LAY OFF WORKERS.

    UNEMPLOYMENT GOES UP, THE ECONOMY TAKES A PURGING DIVE, AND THEN LAST BUT NOT LEAST ......

    PEOPLE COMPLAIN! AND WE DON'T KNOW WHY WE'RE HERE? SOMEONE HELP - I THOUGHT IT WAS ALL GOOD

    OOPS!

    OBAMA fulfills the socialist maxim of "GIVE THE PEOPLE WHAT THEY WANT, AND THEY WILL LOVE YOU FOR IT"

    ASPECT #2:
    WHAT PEOPLE BELIEVE:

    We love obama now, we love free health insurance. IT'S SWEET CANDY, for THE ADULT/CHILDISH population of this country, THAT BRINGS DISEASE AND CANCER IN THE END.

    We'll spend our saving's on nice goodies today -- lets get free health insurance because the hospitals are too expensive (because of illegal immigrants not paying a dime) --- and tomorrow can worry about tomorrow.

    Tomorrow, starts off with a nice cup of coffee - opening the morning mail with that nice "UNEMPLOYMENT CHECK" and an big red arrow pointing down on the NASDAQ.

    TURNS OUT, what you believe may not always be right.

    Opps

    So if someone says "I disagree with you on the healthcare bill, i want free health insurance"

    I WOULD SAY: "Thank you for being stupid, because the more stupid people we have - the less "intelligent" intellectuals i have to compete with. The less of that, the larger my bank figure grows from the plentifull harvest in sowing, retailing, selling, and convincing, converting, profiting of stupid minds"

    BOTTOMLINE

    If you're dumb, lost in life, or just don't care - good luck and nice to meet you!

    If your a modest person with modest means, I embrace you as an acquaintance and look forward to spending time soon.

    ALL IN ALL - OUR EXTROVERSION IS DIRECTED TOWARDS SOME GOAL, OR ACHIEVING THAT GOAL. INTERACTION AND EXTROVERSION THAT COMPROMISES THAT GOAL, OR IS DIRECTED AGAINST IT - NOW BECOMES "RESERVED"

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    Moneytick: We'll spend our saving's on nice goodies today -- lets get free health insurance because the hospitals are too expensive (because of illegal immigrants not paying a dime) --- and tomorrow can worry about tomorrow.

    Me: Hmmm. The old illegal immigrant argument.
    Not very creative but easily trotted out because illegal immigrants don't vote.
    Do you want to deport all of the illegal immigrants?
    And do their jobs?
    Check out this website:
    TAKEOURJOBS.ORG
    OK. Back to ENTJ extraversion:
    Do ENTJs like telling stories of their exploits or do they prefer to stick to just the facts, ma'am???
    Are ENTJs, as the bosses, allowed to use smilies?
    p.s. It's not "less intellectuals," it's "fewer intellectuals" (if the thing that you're talking about can be counted, you use fewer, not less).
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