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    Quote Originally Posted by MoneyTick View Post
    Too many mixed answers.

    TO GIVE you a more clear, complete, and concise picture an ENTJ's extrovert function, let me briefly explain how being and "extrovert" fits into the ENTJ's interpretation.

    1) WE HATE, AND DO NOT INTERACT WITH STUPID PEOPLE OR PEOPLE WHO ACT LIKE WILD ANIMALS

    Due to this, they can sometimes be generally regarded as "reserved" in certain situations.

    For example, in my math class I must unfortunately spend 60 minutes of my precious time with a bunch of lunatics that interrupt the class, have no respect of life in general, every topic of discussion relates to either "the next badass party" or "how great yesterday's blunt was", are jumping off the walls and having a blast making up sensless jokes and remarks.

    These are people who's future is already beyond the point of no return, who don't have the slightest clue about what it means to be "successful" and just don't get anything other than what it means to "have a great time, all the time."

    I personally am energetic, like to party, drink, etc... But in my world there's a limit - and going on about that 24/7 4LIFE is beyond that limit.

    TO SUCH PEOPLE, it would be a personal disgrace, defamation of my reputation, personal insult, and complete waste of my breath - if I mentioned a word to them, yet if possible - carry a conversation.

    2) WE MAKE FRIENDS EASY, AND WE STRIKE UP GREAT CONVERSATIONS LIKE NOTHING - HOWEVER, LONG, LONG, LONG, CONVERSATIONS AND LONG TERM INTERACTION IS NOT OUR PRIMARY TALENT - WE SPEAK WELL, AND IN BRIEF

    ENTJ's take the trophy when it comes to small talk regardless of who he/she is speaking to. We are charismatic, sophisticated, articulate, humorous and cram a bunch of "goodies" into a 10-15 minute conversation - anything beyond may deplete our time and communication inventory.

    We are great long term communications with people you see every day (co workers, peers, friends), ONLY AS SUCH as those individuals are not lunatics and savage animals as previously mentioned - and are people that share similar interests, theories, and goals.

    We can also communicate with mindless fools who LOVE self-destructive habits and are dumb enough to not know where they are headed in life, however, the resources we invest in such relationships/situations is limited - with complete isolation or being "reserved" as an option to surrender fostering their foolishness.

    3) ENTJ's DON'T CARE WHAT OTHERS THINK, THEY SPEAK THEIR MIND AT THEIR DISCRETION. WHETHER YOU LIKE WHAT ENTJ HAS TO SAY OR NOT - IS YOUR PERSONAL AGENDA. EVEN IF YOU, A BUNCH OF PEOPLE, OR THE WHOLE WORLD DOESN'T LIKE IT - WE GENUINELY AND HONESTLY FEEL NOTHING, AND CARE ZERO

    For example, if I say obamacare's bill is "good for you now" but "your impending disaster latter" --- and someone disagrees - I would LOVE IT and IT WOULD MAKE MY DAY. Because there are two modes of living: the truth, and what you believe.

    The TRUTH is:

    There exists factual data and evidence pointing that the health care bill is an economicaly detrimental sanction, requiring billions of dollars (from your tax tab), and will impede the progression of our exodus from this recession.

    Employers will have do deduct 5-16% of their employees paychecks ON TOP OF ALL THE OTHER TAXES, as an obligation for obamacare. THEN -- THE EMPLOYERS (JUST LIKE FICA/SS TAX) MUST MATCH THAT DEDUCTED AMOUNT AND PAY IT FROM THEIR OWN POCKETS, APART FROM THE ALREADY DEDUCTED EMPLOYEE AMMOUNT. HENCE "DOUBLE TAXATION" - THE EMPLOYEE GETS FREE HEALTH INSURANCE, BUT GETS AN 15% "HEALTH INSURANCE" DEDUCTION JAMMED UP HIS ASS AND THE EMPLOYER GET'S FUCKED FROM BEHIND AS WELL.

    THEN -- EMPLOYERS CAN'T AFFORD THE SOCIALIST PURLOINS SO THEY LAY OFF WORKERS.

    UNEMPLOYMENT GOES UP, THE ECONOMY TAKES A PURGING DIVE, AND THEN LAST BUT NOT LEAST ......

    PEOPLE COMPLAIN! AND WE DON'T KNOW WHY WE'RE HERE? SOMEONE HELP - I THOUGHT IT WAS ALL GOOD

    OOPS!

    OBAMA fulfills the socialist maxim of "GIVE THE PEOPLE WHAT THEY WANT, AND THEY WILL LOVE YOU FOR IT"

    ASPECT #2:
    WHAT PEOPLE BELIEVE:

    We love obama now, we love free health insurance. IT'S SWEET CANDY, for THE ADULT/CHILDISH population of this country, THAT BRINGS DISEASE AND CANCER IN THE END.

    We'll spend our saving's on nice goodies today -- lets get free health insurance because the hospitals are too expensive (because of illegal immigrants not paying a dime) --- and tomorrow can worry about tomorrow.

    Tomorrow, starts off with a nice cup of coffee - opening the morning mail with that nice "UNEMPLOYMENT CHECK" and an big red arrow pointing down on the NASDAQ.

    TURNS OUT, what you believe may not always be right.

    Opps

    So if someone says "I disagree with you on the healthcare bill, i want free health insurance"

    I WOULD SAY: "Thank you for being stupid, because the more stupid people we have - the less "intelligent" intellectuals i have to compete with. The less of that, the larger my bank figure grows from the plentifull harvest in sowing, retailing, selling, and convincing, converting, profiting of stupid minds"

    BOTTOMLINE

    If you're dumb, lost in life, or just don't care - good luck and nice to meet you!

    If your a modest person with modest means, I embrace you as an acquaintance and look forward to spending time soon.

    ALL IN ALL - OUR EXTROVERSION IS DIRECTED TOWARDS SOME GOAL, OR ACHIEVING THAT GOAL. INTERACTION AND EXTROVERSION THAT COMPROMISES THAT GOAL, OR IS DIRECTED AGAINST IT - NOW BECOMES "RESERVED"
    ENTj 7-3-8 sx/sp

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walking Tourist View Post
    Moneytick: We'll spend our saving's on nice goodies today -- lets get free health insurance because the hospitals are too expensive (because of illegal immigrants not paying a dime) --- and tomorrow can worry about tomorrow.

    Me: Hmmm. The old illegal immigrant argument.
    Not very creative but easily trotted out because illegal immigrants don't vote.
    Do you want to deport all of the illegal immigrants?
    And do their jobs?
    Check out this website:
    TAKEOURJOBS.ORG
    OK. Back to ENTJ extraversion:
    Do ENTJs like telling stories of their exploits or do they prefer to stick to just the facts, ma'am???
    Are ENTJs, as the bosses, allowed to use smilies?
    p.s. It's not "less intellectuals," it's "fewer intellectuals" (if the thing that you're talking about can be counted, you use fewer, not less).
    In response to your rectification of my derogatory post:

    I greatly appreciate you careful eye in catching my "less/fewer" typo in my narrative, if that's the only thing you could hint upon - I appreciate your caring touch in bringing to my attention the minor error.

    Am I an advocator for deporting the illegal immigrant population?

    You might as well say "David, You Should have NO PROBLEM AT ALL, with paying a $5300 hospital bill for 10 minutes of care for a cut -- all because the illegal immigrants that take up half the emergency room are not obligated to pay a single penny in medical costs"

    Furthermore, I should be CONTENT and HAPPY paying exorbitant and undue taxes to cover millions of dollars in maintaining illegal prisoners in state/county jails for their vile crimes.

    AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, to address your second concern ("And do their jobs?") as portrayed by takeourjobs.org

    If I was jobless, had a family to feed and at verge of loosing it all - I wold RUN TO THOSE FARMS and fulfill my duty to my family and obligations thereof, in plain words - yes.

    But don't take my answer for it - there's many more answers like mine -- all you have to do Is ask the millions of Unemployed, and near homeless Americans today.

    And ma'am -- Facts are only half of it. IT'S ABOUT THE INTERPRETATION OF THE FACTS, and WHAT THE FACTS MEAN. Useless data and figures mean nothing until you can piece them together like a puzzle and create an cognizant exploit. As for the one above, one that seemed more of like a provocative insult as I anticipated.

    Ohh yeah -- As for the smiles, I checked the rules and yes I've allowed them,

    DONT TAKE IT PERSONALY!!!!!!PLEASE..

    I just thrive on organized chaos, debate, and the notion of fixing problems.

    Feed me some more feedback, and let me happily debunk it. It's my leisure time sport.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG View Post
    Only 2 MG .. Are you serious?

    You need the entire Xanax factory's inventory to tap my brakes.

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    Wow. You've got some tolerance. Just looking at those pill bottles makes me sleepy....


    Quote Originally Posted by MoneyTick View Post
    Only 2 MG .. Are you serious?

    You need the entire Xanax factory's inventory to tap my brakes.
    I'm a little teapot, short and stout. Here is my handle and here is my spout. Every time I steam up, I give a shout. Just tip me over and pour me out.

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    I know a confirmed ENTJ who sounds just like your description.

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