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    Junior Member Virlomi's Avatar
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    Ah, hello... I'm quite new to the forum (and the MBTI concept in general, I suppose) and hope to get my type more definitely sorted out.

    I initially tested as an IXTP, but did not find the ISTP description very accurate. Since then, I test usually as an INTP. I accepted this for a bit, but today I've been doing some more in-depth reading on the subjects, and the more I read, the less sure I am. I could be just second-guessing. So, I'm interested in opinions, if I may be allowed to say a bit about myself? I'm going to try to be as objective as I can, please bear with me.

    To start, I'm female, a junior in high school, and pretty atheistic. I'm intelligent and usually prefer the company of those older than myself. I'm mildly serious about playing my clarinet, though I don't think that's what I want to do as a career, nor do I think I'm good enough for that. I'm good at languages, but get more enjoyment out of sciences, and to a lesser extent mathematics. I'm rather cynical, I've been told, and I can't dispute the accusations of sarcasm. Also compulsively polite and feel quite guilty whenever someone does something for me. I really enjoy time by myself, and am quite content not to go out and do things if no opportunities present themselves. I spend a lot of quality time with my Rubik's Cube, it's something nice to do with my hands.

    I'm very quiet in new situations, and I don't usually initiate conversations with new people. Starting off introductions feels awkward to me, not something that comes naturally. I have a small circle of friends that mean the world to me. However, if I'm somewhere new with one of these friends, I'm much more confident, and hardly shy at all. My first year of high school I was timid... by now, I'm comfortable in the surrounding and can interact freely with others. I have a much larger circle of people I enjoy being around, and can be myself easily. It's to the point where I can feel easy around new additions to, say, the clarinet section with minimal effort.

    I place a high personal value on things such as grades, ACTs, etc. At the same time, I can be immensely lazy regarding school work and usually procrastinate everything. I'm not very organized... Things will get to a point where the mess irritates me, but things never stay clean for long. I don't like having my life scheduled, but I stress a bit on school related projects if a group that I'm in seems content to just 'wing it.'

    I usually get along best with those that share my interests somewhat, books, music, computers... I dislike sports. My friends typically have their own idiosyncrasies and bouts of unpredictability, like I do. If I feel like riding a carousel in public, I do so without much concern for others, and my friends are the type to join me. I'm usually pretty laid-back, and take things in stride, but also have days where I have seemingly boundless energy and good cheer.

    I really don't think I'm the 'feeling' type. I don't get really emotionally involved in things much. I don't get angry much, I'm pretty hard to irritate, I rarely cry. (Except when I laugh, which I can't do without crying. (: ) I'm not the type to be attracted to someone easily, and I dislike having a 'crush' on someone... It makes me anxious around a person I previously could be comfortable around as a friend, and I resent that. I'm logic oriented and it's something I don't understand or have a choice in. I assume part of that is being fifteen. I'd rather not downplay my age- if you aren't going to be able to respect me despite it, than I guess that's that. And if you find me being immature or 'like a 15-year-old,' I'd rather know it than not.

    Eh, I would hope that would be plenty/a start, it's more talking about myself than I've done in a long time. If you have any opinions or questions, please respond?

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    I know you are dismissing feeling types, but it seems for the wrong reasons. Basic principle of type is that emotions does not come into play. Fe and Fi are as cognitive as Ti and Te. The only difference is Fi and Fe base their decisions on the human factor and Ti and Te on non-human factors. I would say that ISFP should be considered as well as INFJ, but don't dismiss ISTP if you are limiting your viewpoint to stereotyped info like being mechanically inclined.

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    Hmmm...perhaps you should test your Jungian cognitive functions to determine your type. Here is a test where such can be done:

    Understanding the Eight Jungian Cognitive Processes / Eight Functions Attitudes

    Welcome to the forum, by the way.
    "The mathematician's patterns, like the painter's or the poet's must be beautiful; the ideas like the colours or the words, must fit together in a harmonious way. Beauty is the first test: there is no permanent place in the world for ugly mathematics..." - G.H. Hardy

    "Another roof, another proof." - Paul Erdős

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    Thank you for the thoughts, link and welcome-

    extraverted Sensing (Se) *************************** (27.3)
    average use
    introverted Sensing (Si) ********************************* (33.2)
    good use
    extraverted Intuiting (Ne) ************************************ (36.2)
    excellent use
    introverted Intuiting (Ni) ************************* (25.9)
    average use
    extraverted Thinking (Te) ******************************* (31.3)
    good use
    introverted Thinking (Ti) ****************************************** (42.5)
    excellent use
    extraverted Feeling (Fe) ************** (14.8)
    unused
    introverted Feeling (Fi) ***************************** (29)
    average use

    INTP again. Does it seem to fit after all? I think I've considered this too much, all I do is second-guess myself. I just scored ISTP again on a different test as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Virlomi View Post
    Thank you for the thoughts, link and welcome-

    extraverted Sensing (Se) *************************** (27.3)
    average use
    introverted Sensing (Si) ********************************* (33.2)
    good use
    extraverted Intuiting (Ne) ************************************ (36.2)
    excellent use
    introverted Intuiting (Ni) ************************* (25.9)
    average use
    extraverted Thinking (Te) ******************************* (31.3)
    good use
    introverted Thinking (Ti) ****************************************** (42.5)
    excellent use
    extraverted Feeling (Fe) ************** (14.8)
    unused
    introverted Feeling (Fi) ***************************** (29)
    average use

    INTP again. Does it seem to fit after all? I think I've considered this too much, all I do is second-guess myself. I just scored ISTP again on a different test as well.
    Based off these results, you seem to be a rather clear INTP. Your self-description also sounded quite INTP, with the exception of your compulsion "to be polite." Then again, there are many other factors contributing to character traits, so that doesn't exclude you from being INTP.
    "The mathematician's patterns, like the painter's or the poet's must be beautiful; the ideas like the colours or the words, must fit together in a harmonious way. Beauty is the first test: there is no permanent place in the world for ugly mathematics..." - G.H. Hardy

    "Another roof, another proof." - Paul Erdős

    INTJ (I = 100, N = 100, T = 88, J = 43)
    Solitary/Idiosyncratic, 5w6 sp/sx
    RL(x)EI (RlxE|I|)- Inquisitive Dominant
    Reserved Idealist
    ILI-Ni/INTp

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    I have a suggestion.
    Sometimes when we take these tests, we can get too close and lose objectivity.
    Is it possible for you to have a couple of girls who know you pretty well help you take the test?
    What I mean is, you could ask their opinion of how you should answer each question.

    The reason I suggest it is this: before I met my husband, I thought I was a very observant person, but after I got to know him and learned how much attention he paid to everything, I realized I am not a naturally observant person, like my husband is. I thought I was observant until I compared myself to someone who really is observant.
    Your friends might be a little different from you and may be able see you differently than you see yourself.

    If that's not possible, maybe you could just ask them a few questions over the phone.

    I am a very strong "J" yet I used to procrastinate on my homework and have a messy room, too. But after a while, it would drive me nuts and I would have to clean it up. People who just want to "wing it" stress me out, too.

    My husband has a couple of favorite sayings: "We'll cross that bridge when we come to it." and "Stay flexible and have fun." both of which drive me crazy - especially when I'm the one who has to do the being flexible and the waiting!! He's an ISTP.

    I'm an INTJ on the outside and an INFJ on the inside.

    Are you really critical of yourself? Are you a perfectionist? Do people tell you not to be so hard on yourself?

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    I tested as an INTP on that test, too, and I am a very strong J.

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    Here's a test that might prove to be helpful if you can remember how you were as a kid.
    The Personality Questionnaire for Kids

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    you sounded quite INTP from the first post. and after reading your test results, it seems even more likely.

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    I test as INTP as well, and I thought I was one for a long time until hanging out with INTPs made me realize that I wasn't one. A lot of the tests and descriptions out there are really biased towards N, so if you perceive yourself as being halfway intelligent, the scores can be shifted towards N.

    For the record, everything you wrote applies to me, except the hating sports (although I did hate them in high school). Supposedly the primary function (Ti for both types) develops during your teens while the secondary function (Ne for INTP, Se for ISTP) develops during your early 20s, so it isn't really surprising that you're having trouble telling which one fits you better. Looking back, I was a lot more INTP-ish in high school.

    Try reading this description and see if it resonates with you - it's the most accurate one I've found. And it's no big deal if you still aren't sure, I'm sure hanging around here will give you a better idea over time.

    ISTP - Introverted Thinking with Sensing

    Anyway, welcome!

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