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    I'm definatly not a Fe dom. I don't think Fi either, or Te. Ti is a possibility. Ti or Ne.

    I know that Fi is some sort of internal values system and Ti is looking for logical inconsistencies, but I'm not sure of Fe/Te. I definatly identify with Ti. I am sure I have both strong Ti and Ne, my guess is that I'm ENTP with weak extraversion preference, because I always feel the need to express my ideas and thoughts to others.

    The thing is that I love social interaction, but most of those around only talk about completly banal stuff that bores me to tears. Because of this I'm often just keeping quiet when in their company, and it's like I'm not physically present but just observing from a detached perspective. There are only a few I actually like talking to, who I find intelligent enough. I practice some sort of intellectual elitism to find out who I like and who I don't like. I don't mind being alone because I've gotten used to it, but yeah, I really enjoy socializing with other people who are not dumb and shallow.

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    Am I missing something? Sounds eNfP to me.
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    Hmm really? Why do you think so?

    And btw, when you say INtP and eNfP, do you mean an INTP with weak thinking preference and ENFP with weak extraversion/feeling preferences?

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    Extraverts are perfectly capable of being alone and spending alone time, but the need to see others after a prolonged exposure is typical extravertedness.

    You might not be Mistah Extravert 2010, but it sounds like you definatly favour extraversion.

    You're definatly intuitive and a perceiver, there's no doubt about that from what you've told.



    As for the small f.

    An ENFP is perfectly capable of rational thought, just like an ENTP. And it can even seem to be Ti. The fact that you feel like you rely on feelings over rational thought in the heavier situations, sounds like, when it comes to it. You're a feeler. But as far as rational thought is concerned. Every type is capable of having the wish for rational thought. It's just that for NT's it's not just a wish to be rational, but a must.

    ENTP's can be emotional and depressed too, but they show it differently, they only try to be more rational as their emotions waver. Because of the need to fix things in the way they trust most. Unhealthy NTP's in distressed time, go over the top when it comes to rationality.

    You seem to allow your feelings to take hold in those situations, rather then deny them, which doesn't sound NTP to me at all.
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    I think you're an ENTP, because you seem to gain your energy from people, even if it's bad energy a lot of the time.

    I also think you're a T because you make decisions based on logic, which forms the basis of being a T or an F. A T can still be depressed, obviously, they just use Ti/Te to make decisions.

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    Default Might help. :)

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    Answer this!
    If you had a significant breakthrough with a newfound friend(NFF), but said NFF was going to work in a few minutes; He asks you if you'd like to continue the conversation?

    His job is to take care of children at a kindergarten and he explains that he can just take the day off, it won't really matter.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Gtzk View Post
    Answer this!
    If you had a significant breakthrough with a newfound friend(NFF), but said NFF was going to work in a few minutes; He asks you if you'd like to continue the conversation?

    His job is to take care of children at a kindergarten and he explains that he can just take the day off, it won't really matter.
    This is interesting. I'm still pretty unsure of my type as well and just give it a go now.

    So here are my thoughts:
    If we already had the breakthrough I see no need to pursue that any further right now. This can wait, especially if NFF has to work now. On the other hand if he decides that it is ok to skip work we might as well continue. However I would even feel fine to stop discussing things without the breakthrough if NFF had to go. So I really don't care whether or not he will leave as long as we pick it up later. But then again I found that picking up on the same matter can be hard, especially if you have something going on right now, so it might be better to continue anyways. I just can't think of a situation where a kindergarden teacher can just skip his work day. The other person would be unable to keep all the kids under control alone. In our kindergardens there are usually two teachers for 20 kids and this is already borderline. One of them being able to skip working days at will must result in much stress for the other and bad caring for the children. Of course there is the possibilty that there is more than one teacher left over due to some scheduling or internship or whatever, so in the end, I leave that decision with him. NFF works there and should know best after all. I don't think I would say all of this to NFF however, this is just what I would think of internally in a couple of seconds. I might make him aware of the possibility that the discussion could only last for another hour or so, so that he might not miss work entirely but could just be late. I would ask him if this was fine for him, or if he knew that we would stop the discussion eventually in an hour, he would have decided otherwise and have gone to work.

    So in the end I will not make the decision to continue the discussion or not, I will have NFF make the decision pointing out some possibilities of future occurences to him and telling him that I am content either way the decision will turn out. Writing that I think that I just might tell him what I think about the situation at the kindergarden and ask for more detail on why he is able to skip the workday. If he is not willing to make the decision after my hints on possible outcomes of the future, I will make the decision after factoring his reasons to be able to skip the work day. If there is hard fact that he can stay away from there today I will continue, if I have doubts on that in about ~80% I might continue with an initial bad feeling about it, and in ~20% I will tell him to go to work.

    Oh gush this was harder than I thought :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluxkom View Post
    This is interesting. I'm still pretty unsure of my type as well and just give it a go now.

    So here are my thoughts:

    (me)If we already had the breakthrough I see no need to pursue that any further right now. This can wait, especially if NFF has to work now. On the other hand if he decides that it is ok to skip work we might as well continue. However I would even feel fine to stop discussing things without the breakthrough if NFF had to go. So I really don't care whether or not he will leave as long as we pick it up later. But then again I found that picking up on the same matter can be hard, especially if you have something going on right now, so it might be better to continue anyways.

    Motivations: He= work/money/status/function/
    You= Fi/Te work your way, funny enough. I didn't see it until really reading that part.
    (you)I just can't think of a situation where a kindergarden teacher can just skip his work day. The other person would be unable to keep all the kids under control alone. In our kindergardens there are usually two teachers for 20 kids and this is already borderline. One of them being able to skip working days at will must result in much stress for the other and bad caring for the children.

    You= Ni/Fe/Ti/Fi
    Of course there is the possibility that there is more than one teacher left over due to some scheduling or internship or whatever, so in the end, I leave that decision with him. NFF works there and should know best after all. I don't think I would say all of this to NFF however, this is just what I would think of internally in a couple of seconds.

    You= Ne/Ti/Te/Fe/Si
    I might make him aware of the possibility that the discussion could only last for another hour or so, so that he might not miss work entirely but could just be late. I would ask him if this was fine for him, or if he knew that we would stop the discussion eventually in an hour, he would have decided otherwise and have gone to work.

    (I haven't ever thought in this way before, so I may be a bit rusty in the edges but it feels as if it might hit some sort of imaginary bell: sounding a horrid "PING")
    You= Se/Ti/Ne/Fe/Te/Si/Fi
    So in the end I will not make the decision to continue the discussion or not, I will have NFF make the decision pointing out some possibilities of future occurences to him and telling him that I am content either way the decision will turn out. Writing that I think that I just might tell him what I think about the situation at the kindergarden and ask for more detail on why he is able to skip the workday.

    If he is not willing to make the decision after my hints on possible outcomes of the future, I will make the decision after factoring his reasons to be able to skip the work day. If there is hard fact that he can stay away from there today I will continue, if I have doubts on that in about ~80% I might continue with an initial bad feeling about it, and in ~20% I will tell him to go to work.

    Oh gush this was harder than I thought :-)
    Sorry for hijacking the thread.
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    You are one of the lucky ones, my dear friend.
    I think that you've gotten to keep your reason whilst others have not.
    Do you do a sales pitch every now and then, to keep in good health?
    But there's so much more than a single cause; Perhaps I would name you estp but I wonder if you'd prefer the entp above the others?

    I was in the shower thinking about this particular answer and I had two new functions on the tip of my tongue, then I moved around and forgot the whole thing; started thinking about witches and monsters as shapes of chocolate.
    Damn that was annoying.


    Bottom line is that whenever I try to keep your entire train of thought and try to evaluate and especially, the damn explanation of it: I can't keep focus.
    Or rather, it's like standing on the railway, in complete fog, hearing the shout of the locomotive and seeing light rushing towards you. You are completely certain that there's a train coming towards you and you know you'll be smashed to bits, but you cannot make for certain which way to move to save yourself.
    Instead, you start thinking about what kind of train it might be and if you've ever seen it before, perhaps it's possible to find the breaking point of it by hitting it in a unlimited amount of angles to shatter it willfully. The problem is "space-time"-continuum as you cannot hit a single object more than once without destroying the rest of the experiments as you change the base.

    Yeah, I might be pitching or just lost in translation. (that movie was quite good)


    So, bottom line is basically: How about intelligent ape that knows your way around and yet keep a somewhat steady stand upon the earths own crust?

    Simply: (I am honestly trying to narrow it down and adjust it for normal speech as to be able to structure an answer that may or may not be adequately understandable by most)
    Um. Shit. Just buying time. Etc..


    From this train of thought you obviously show T-characteristics.

    I sat just here by my laptop and felt how the whole world was below my fingers, just as I thought how the universe could very well be built just as the internet. Oh well, it was a cool feeling and though. I recommend it.

    Anyhow: I'd give you a rating of entP.


    I sure hope I am not too confusing.

    Next time, I promise that I will try to keep the red line (or whatever).
    (I've heard throughout my lifetime that I fly away on clouds in any given situation but what I've noticed is that the only reason people believe that is because they've missed all the really fast thinking inbetween of me saying one thing before another)

    Like the jumping of A -> P -> Q -> C -> K -> X -> H .

    My bad. I'll stick to this. If anything is confusing, let me know so I can try to explain it.
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    Thanks Gtzk,

    as our recent discussion got wiped by the database restore I just wanted to let you know that I redid the test this morning and came out as INTJ.
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    Cool.

    Happy with the results?
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