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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackCat View Post
    This may be weird, but I think either ESFP or ENFJ. I'm thinking more ESFP... but meh.
    Why ESFP? How do you think an ENTP/ESFP marriage would pan out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Windigo View Post
    Why ESFP?
    What were you thinking? I got readings from that description of a good bit of Se along with a feeling preference is all. A lot of Se.

    As for an ESFP-ENTP marriage... that sounds interesting. Doesn't sound like it would last. They would have opposing values and ways of dealing with life, but would probably get along because both types are fun to be around and usually like people. Anyone with similar interests and ways of interacting with the world will probably get along just fine in the long run, and ESFPs and ENTPs are both "Get things going" types. Get-Things-Going

    Third person sounds like an ISFP 4w3.

    Other people's input it definitely needed.
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    Well, I think you pretty much confirmed my suspicions.

    #1 I couldn't decide between ENFP/ENTP/ENTJ
    #2 I originally typed as an ESTP but recently began to wonder about ESFP
    #3 I have bounced around between ISFP/ISFJ/ESFJ/ESFP

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    I'll clarify my viewpoint for number two, since that seems to be the one I didn't explain too clearly.

    Quote Originally Posted by Windigo View Post
    As a kid: VERY independent. Decided to go to a different church than her parents at age 5 and got a odd jobs to pay the bus fare. Worked from the age of 8. Very social in high school. Lots of boy friends and crazy adventures. Stayed out late and didn't care what people thought of her. Started a club in HS called the Pink Kittens. Paid her way through college without help from her parents. Worked to support herself in college.
    The bolded just screams ESFP to me. Otherwise, it sounds like what an ESFP would do. It seems like what you're describing is an SeTe attitude, being very practical and knowing what needs to be done. Along with that attitude, this person sounds extremely independent. So using SeTe to gain independence, all backed by Fi.

    [quote[Started as a Psych major and then decided after interning for the summer that she would go crazy listening to everyone's problems. Couldn't stand whining. Switched to business. Poor grades. Got married and dropped out.[/quote]

    E__Ps tend to not know what they really want to do with themselves out of all of the types. This sounds like this taking an affect here.

    Didn't like to stand out in a crowd, very concerned about appearances, but was the life of the party when drunk. Irreverent and blunt sense of humor either made friends or enemies. No middle of the road with her.
    Bolded seems very ESFP. Se doms tend to be extremely blunt, and this may intimidate some people. So it's understandable that people would either love her or hate her for it.

    Very intelligent in a non nonsense sort of way. Despised theory, but enjoyed history and literature. Especially liked making money. Prone to "get rich quick schemes." Liked getting "a good deal." Still very practical with money.
    SeTe!

    Could pry secret information out of anyone including officers in the military. Gave gifts with strings attached. Very passionate and sensual. Mama bear for her family. Fight first, think second. Someone you wanted on your side. Not afraid of anyone. Never caught unprepared. Always able to go with the flow and change information.
    Bolded sounds like an Se dom. Se doms can be really controlling and know how to get things out of people if they want to. Of course anyone can, but Se doms in particular seem to be prone to these kinds of things. It's a certain way of doing it in an Se way, and the Se way is usually pretty successful. I don't know, I hope I'm articulating myself well and am understandable lol.

    The rest just sounds like an ESP.

    Didn't like to discuss science unless it had a practical application.
    SP

    Had an almost "psychic" ability to know things about people.
    A lot of SFPs can learn things about people and how they think just based on body language and physical aspects of a person. So that's probably this at work.
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    Wow! This makes a lot of sense to me now. What would the tertiary and shadow function look like for an ESFP?

    Also you're an ISFP how do you relate to person #3?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Windigo View Post
    Wow! This makes a lot of sense to me now. What would the tertiary and shadow function look like for an ESFP?
    Hm. Te is weird for me to explain, since I can easily say it's my worst function. But the tertiary is mainly a response tool. The tertiary's thought process is sprung into action by responding to things happening, and this feeds the auxiliary's understanding of the world. I don't really know how to describe tertiary Te (yet I know when it's happening... lol). Here is a part of a socionics ESFP profile, this part is about Te-

    ESFPs are often industrious and can in working situations expend large amounts of effort towards their goals. They may be constantly take proactive action and seek out new information on their topics of interest. They may tend to flaunt the information they gather and may sometimes assume that the knowledge they have accumulated is infallible. They also may jump into attacking a problem with minimal preparation and may in some circumstances fail to acknowledge the futility of their proactive expenditures.

    ESFPs often seek out conceptual clarity from others, and may tend to expect others to assist them in accumulating and making sense of the world around them. They may come to be good at mining new information, but they often lack confidence in their ability to collect pertinent information and navigate the outside world with it in mind, especially on unfamiliar topics. They tend to be especially unskilled at analyzing new factual information in an appropriate context. Typically, ESFPs feel that it is more important to apply information than to gather and extend it, and they may push what they know to make a concrete impact on others around them. They depend on the guidance of others to forge and refine the applications of their industries
    Here is what the same profile has to say about Ni-
    ESFPs often have rapid-fire and uncontrolled thinking processes. They are not naturally reflective or contemplative of what they experience, and may regularly fail to consider the consequences or implications of their actions. They may have difficulty concentrating on their mental trains of thought and tend to be inclined to make hasty and impassioned conclusions about the state of their affairs. They can exhibit a tendency to conceptualize their world in overly simplistic terms, without recognizing the degree of intricacy and complexity of the situations around them. In general, they welcome the perspectives of others who can reason with a slower thinking process and help them to carefully mentalize the world around them.

    ESFPs often lack caution and reserve. Their strategy towards solving problems may involve persuasion and brute force; their natural response to opposition or obstacle is to display further aggression or resistance, including in instances where such resistance is not necessarily appropriate. They may be distraught, tempestuous, and highly emotionally turbulent when their strategy fails. Because of their manic instability, they can exhibit accusatory or antagonistic tendencies towards others; some ESFPs fall into a cycle of ruining their relationships or vocational prospects in this way.

    ESFPs are naturally attracted to individuals who seem knowledgeable and secure as to how events will develop from a given starting point, giving them a more strategic perspective to their own more instinctive tactical approach. They are inclined to make impulsive decisions, based on immediate and short-term considerations, which the ESFP nevertheless hopes will have a positive result in the context of their long-term goals. They expect assistance from others in that regard, and are disappointed if they do not receive it.

    ESFPs can be insecure about the negative consequences of their actions. They may tend to instinctively suppress and avoid thinking of the negative or painful aspects of their history that their recklessness may have caused. They may lack a calming or guiding influence in their lives, and sometimes attempt compulsively seek out individuals or environments that they feel can unshroud mysteries to resolve their internal chaos.
    Even though the function definitions are tweaked, that's still a good way of putting it I'd say.


    Also you're an ISFP how do you relate to person #3?
    Well, we seem to have very different lifestyles and ways of living, but similar ideals.
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    Wow! This seems to cinch it for me that #2 is an ESFP

    1. Rapid fire uncontrolled thinking process.

    2. Tempestuous and highly volatile

    3. Attracted to strong, intelligent individuals

    4. Never admitted to any wrong doing took a "la, la, la . . . I'm not listening" approach when asked to consider behavior.

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