I got enough guitar students to quit the food industry entirely.
Originally Posted by Jaguar
This is getting boring so let's get this over with. Everything you mentioned about the micromanaging boss is ESTJ, not ENTJ.
He wasn't even the boss. He technically had no authority at all. He just thought everyone else was incompetent and constantly pissed everyone off. He eventually got fired when he threw a 15 year old kid up against a wall for smarting off to him.
It's really amazing that you've decided this guy can't possibly share a type with you without ever having met or interacted with him in any way, based on about three lines of information I gave you about him.
You're so insistent on disallowing anyone who's "beneath you" to share your MBTI type that you think you can type people you know nothing about better than those who have actually met and spent significant time interacting with them.
As for the bathroom guy, I've known him for 10 years and he's definitely ENTJ. He's not stupid, either; he just has some bizarre pet peeves and is kind of a control freak. Unhealthy ENTJs tend to have similar control issues.
Of course, I'm sure having negative characteristics of any kind totally precludes him from being ENTJ in your mind.
Originally Posted by JustHer
I'm pretty sure this thread is no longer about ENTJs and micromanaging.
At this point I'm watching to see if Simulated World is emotionally capable of admiting defeat.
So I'll have to admit that, according to public perception, most people apparently don't perceive ENTJs as micromanaging.
Okay, I have to concede that I've met an unusual sample of ENTJs in my personal experience then.
In any event I did learn something from this thread, and that's that I've met an unusually micromanaging sample of ENTJs in my experience.
I can conclude that the data set I'm working with (ENTJs I've met) probably contains an unusually high number of micromanagers that doesn't reflect the overall ENTJ population.
Looking back on it, I probably would have had a better point if I'd used a more applicable wording. If I'd said, "Do ENTJs have a tendency to be overbearing and controlling?", I'd probably have gotten a lot more "yes" answers. I guess "micromanaging" is just the wrong word for the point I was trying to make.
And I agree--at this point it seems to be about propping up Jaguar's delusions of grandeur that there's no such thing as a stupid or unsuccessful ENTJ--in order to be those things he'd have to be a Sensor, of course.
If you could be anything you want, I bet you'd be disappointed--am I right?