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    Default INFP/ENTP hybrid? possible?

    Is it possible to be an INFP/ENTP hybrid... I don't know, maybe... some sort of ENTP/INFP dualism or something?

    Okay, why this thread? I am in a rut... I have been trying to decide my true personality type because even though I can relate well with the profile of an INFP, but it seems like there is something missing... you know, that kind of weird phenomenon where you feel like you belong and yet you in some ways, you don't... like a baby chick stuck in a group of little ducklings... okay not a good analogy but well.

    I relate to the INFP profile... and when I was talking about the missing part... after reading the ENTP profile... it fit! But the irony is that the traits in both profiles somewhat clashes with each other and thus leading to my apprehensive frustration as to whether this is it or not...

    I heard the cognitive functions test was a better indicator of type and behaviour, rather than the preference test. And maybe the results could help in some way.

    Function preferences:
    1st: Ne,
    2nd: Fi/Ti
    3rd: Ni
    4th: Fe
    5th: Si/Te
    6th: Se

    Any insights?

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    Quote Originally Posted by songofcalamity View Post
    Is it possible to be an INFP/ENTP hybrid... I don't know, maybe... some sort of ENTP/INFP dualism or something?

    Okay, why this thread? I am in a rut... I have been trying to decide my true personality type because even though I can relate well with the profile of an INFP, but it seems like there is something missing... you know, that kind of weird phenomenon where you feel like you belong and yet you in some ways, you don't... like a baby chick stuck in a group of little ducklings... okay not a good analogy but well.

    I relate to the INFP profile... and when I was talking about the missing part... after reading the ENTP profile... it fit! But the irony is that the traits in both profiles somewhat clashes with each other and thus leading to my apprehensive frustration as to whether this is it or not...

    I heard the cognitive functions test was a better indicator of type and behaviour, rather than the preference test. And maybe the results could help in some way.

    Function preferences:
    1st: Ne,
    2nd: Fi/Ti
    3rd: Ni
    4th: Fe
    5th: Si/Te
    6th: Se

    Any insights?
    Almost certainly not possible. It is possible, if you are female, that you are an INTP.

    What parts of said ENTP profile did you relate to?

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    Yet another example of cognitive function tests providing confusing and inexplicable results.

    Don't rely on typology tests, ever--they have a huge problem in that they depend on self-report. If you don't understand the functions well enough to tell which ones fit you best on your own, a test is not going to help you because accurate results depend on having a solid understanding of the functions in the first place.

    I would go here and read up on the function attitudes and try to decide for yourself which ones fit you best. These ten-minute internet tests trivialize the concepts and don't provide any sort of consistent or accurate result.

    On a side note, if Ne is truly your dominant function, you should be deciding between ENTP and ENFP, not INFP. In fact, if you find yourself stuck between the descriptions of ENTP and INFP, researching ENFP (Ne+Fi) seems like a good starting point.
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    Function tests have so much uncertainty that putting the functions in order is almost meaningless. Best you can do is know you might be much stronger in certain functions than others. eg. scoring zero on a function normally means it is not your dominant or auxiliary. Scoring full on a function would suggest it is maybe in your top 3 or somehow similar to them. But you need pretty big margins to call anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fecal McAngry View Post
    Almost certainly not possible. It is possible, if you are female, that you are an INTP.

    What parts of said ENTP profile did you relate to?
    I will look into that. Thanks!

    On limitations and overcoming it I use them as a tool for self-improvement. Hmm how should I put this...? I do not like being stagnant (mentally), I need progress in self and also progress within my friends. Progress in self is carried out by understanding my limitations and weaknesses and then trying to implement solutions to fix them. When a life event presents opportunities to invoke a change in self (any aspects), I would grab that opportunity and let the event take its course and experience it yeah all life events (small & big ones) are said to present opportunities, I seek for change and constant improvement.

    As for friends I want them to be also seeking for change too. People are like raw crystals to me, they have the potential to become beautiful and when it comes to friends, I want to witness their 'beauty' but it gets frustrating when they dont want to or tells me that they are fine as they are or they will get there eventually through life experiences (because the speed at which they are going is quite slow) EDIT: but the way I go about pointing their flaws is quite subtle and I do it in a roundabout manner.

    ... hmmm what info do you need?

    Yet another example of cognitive function tests providing confusing and inexplicable results.

    Don't rely on typology tests, ever--they have a huge problem in that they depend on self-report. If you don't understand the functions well enough to tell which ones fit you best on your own, a test is not going to help you because accurate results depend on having a solid understanding of the functions in the first place.

    I would go here and read up on the function attitudes and try to decide for yourself which ones fit you best. These ten-minute internet tests trivialize the concepts and don't provide any sort of consistent or accurate result.

    On a side note, if Ne is truly your dominant function, you should be deciding between ENTP and ENFP, not INFP. In fact, if you find yourself stuck between the descriptions of ENTP and INFP, researching ENFP (Ne+Fi) seems like a good starting point.
    I am reading the website now, and woah that link is very useful! Thank you!

    @ noigmn thanks for the insight on the test.
    Last edited by songofcalamity; 01-21-2010 at 06:58 AM.

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    I go by my first 2 scores on the test (Ne, Ti) to get my type (the third score is Se, which I will admit to posessing, but would, according to the dogmatic types, mean that I was typeless )

    I'd check out ENTP and ENFP if your first two are Ne and Ti/Fi... and it wouldn't be uncommon to test high in the whole feeling thing if you were a female thinker- society doesn't WANT for you to think!
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    I can see it. A few claimed ENTPs appear very Feelerish at times to me. Fi mostly. They appear the most emotional of NTs, though their emotionality seems to be a blind spot, as most deny it even in the middle of a strong display of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by songofcalamity View Post

    Function preferences:
    1st: Ne,
    2nd: Fi/Ti
    3rd: Ni
    4th: Fe
    5th: Si/Te
    6th: Se

    Figuring out your type is a mystery, and what you're looking for are clues.

    The best a personality type test or cognitive functions test can do is provide clues. They are self-tests and so the accuracy depends on the person taking them. The quality of the clues you end up with depends on how well you know yourself, or how honest you are with yourself.

    Fortunately, even if your result is somewhat inconclusive or contradictory, it is very unlikely that your result is COMPLETELY off. There will still be some useful clues.


    So, although nothing is conclusive here, you've provided some useful information.

    Since I can't be certain about any of this, I'm going to talk about probabilities (based on the information you've given), and use the term "most likely" a lot.


    First let's start with your cognitive functions test result.


    Important question #1: Didn't it tell you what your type most likely is? If you can remember that, it would be very helpful.

    You scored highest on Ne, so that is most likely your Dominant function.
    It was a draw between Fi and Ti for the second function. If you combine that with the likelihood of your being Dominant Ne, you are most likely ENTP or ENFP. (Dom Ne+Sec Ti = ENTP ; Dom Ne+Sec Fi = ENFP)

    The fact that the rest of your functions seem randomly ordered does NOT, in my opinion, make the result invalid. It is still an important clue in figuring out your type.

    I think the fact that you scored higher on Fe than Te could also indicate that your Tertiary function is Fe, which would make you more likely an ENTP than ENFP---not conclusive of course, but it IS another clue.

    Quote Originally Posted by songofcalamity View Post

    On limitations and overcoming it I use them as a tool for self-improvement. Hmm how should I put this...? I do not like being stagnant (mentally), I need progress in self and also progress within my friends. Progress in self is carried out by understanding my limitations and weaknesses and then trying to implement solutions to fix them. When a life event presents opportunities to invoke a change in self (any aspects), I would grab that opportunity and let the event take its course and experience it yeah all life events (small & big ones) are said to present opportunities, I seek for change and constant improvement.

    As for friends I want them to be also seeking for change too. People are like raw crystals to me, they have the potential to become beautiful and when it comes to friends, I want to witness their 'beauty' but it gets frustrating when they dont want to or tells me that they are fine as they are or they will get there eventually through life experiences (because the speed at which they are going is quite slow)
    In the comments above you emphasized change and constant improvement (in self and others)a lot, a distaste for mental stagnation, and some impatience with the slow pace of others.

    This does not mean you are Dom Ne per se (there could be a number of explanations for this), but it is at least consistent with Dom Ne, and certainly doesn't contradict it.

    Dom Ne's constantly scan the environment for possibilities, potentialities, etc. and when they are ready to do something with the info they've gathered, become easily frustrated with the slow pace of others.


    At this point, I think you are ENTP or ENFP.

    I think the fact that you relate to the INFP profile so much is an important clue, as far as tipping the balance in the direction of ENFP, but I would still search it out more.


    Important question #2:

    Without thinking too hard about it, what's your gut instinct about whether you're Introvert or Extravert?
    It may or may not be important in the long run, but it would be helpful for me to factor that in.


    Important question#3:

    If someone proposed a new rule, policy, procedure, or law, would your first thought be "Is there a good rationale behind it/Is it logical?" or "How will this effect people/How will they feel about it?".

    I realize this may be a vague question.

    Maybe both are equally important to you, but for the purposes of figuring out your type, try to think of which one would win out by even 1 point. Try to determine which one would be your FIRST thought.

    Important question #4:

    In your efforts to help people improve themselves, is your primary goal to help them become more COMPETENT/KNOWLEDGEABLE or HAPPY WITH THEMSELVES/PERSONALLY FULFILLED?

    Again, both may be equally important to you, but try to think of which one is even SLIGHTLY more important.


    I hope you find this post helpful.

    It's been fun for me, and I look forward to your responses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wonkavision View Post
    Important question #4:

    In your efforts to help people improve themselves, is your primary goal to help them become more COMPETENT/KNOWLEDGEABLE or HAPPY WITH THEMSELVES/PERSONALLY FULFILLED?

    I'm not sure how indicative this question is.

    I'm more interested in being competent/knowledgeable for MYSELF, because this leads to me feeling happy/fulfilled. I don't independently care how competent or knowledgeable anyone else is.

    If someone I want good things for wants to be more competent or knowledgeable, I want them to be more competent or knowledgeable. If they want to travel to Jupiter, I want them to travel to Jupiter. If they want more courage, I want them to have more courage. If they want to cover themselves in fudge and stand in a parking lot, I want them to buy some fudge. And so on.


    After thinking about it, a better version of that question might be where songofcalamity has more natural talent ... not intent. Are you naturally good at helping people gain competence or knowledge? Are you naturally good at helping people figure out how to be fulfilled and happy? If you're good at both, which are you better at?
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