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    Quote Originally Posted by VagrantFarce View Post


    OK, now do the same for Ne and Ni!
    You're kidding, right? LOL Nooo...okay, *sigh* here goes:

    1. Introverted Intuition (Caveat: I might confuse the two, so bear with me here).

    Introverted intuition is the ability to bring about change inside or outside through an inner focus on how things could be.

    For example, I keep telling people, "If you see yourself as a winner, you will be a winner; if you see yourself as a loser, you will be a loser." Your inner vision on who you are manifests in the outer world. Often it is important to 'change the tape' concerning the positive or negative messages we repeat to ourselves.

    I believe in a power beyond ourselves or composed of our totality as people (collective consciousness). I guess it's not Ni in itself, but I feel this manifesting all the time around me.

    I feel things. Weird things. Like I went to a restaurant my husband and I frequent, and I felt cold, like death. I knew nothing before. My husband felt the same. Later, it turned out that the proprietress was undergoing extreme depression, but we only found out about that much later. Or I'll think of a person after not hearing from them in five years, and something will be up.

    When my husband's father's gravestone came back (they only have graves for 30 years in Germany) there were a lot of...weird....feelings I had associated with that. I don't want to get into it right now.

    I get perceptions on how things will turn out. Signs are there, you just need to be open for them. If I ask a question to the great unknown, usually the answer arrives in the form of a sign if I'm just open to interpret it (I know that sounds schizoid, but I really don't mean it that way).

    For example, I was sitting in the movie theater, wondering if I should cancel one of my five jobs (ugh!) and right when the ad was finishing, it said, "KNOW YOUR LIMITS!" I sat there, awestruck. Of course, it was for alcohol (the ad) but it was like an ANSWER, you know??? This happens to me ALL THE TIME.

    I think you also have to use this concept when you take something really complex and break it down so that others can understand it, but I'm not sure. That might be Te.

    I'm a big fan of meditation and even these little cards (DON'T LAUGH DAMN IT) that I use in order to sort of sort out how I feel. It helps. But I don't use them as much anymore. (Not tarot cards or something like that, but just like cards with emotions, and you pick one out, and you have to dwell on whatever meaning that might have for you. It helps me sort out my feelings.)

    As a child, I did this more. Especially when I was more religious. I listened to audio tapes on contemplation and going inside the mind. It helped that my aunt was studying psychology. I went to a couple of her graduate classes when I was 10. Anyway, I really believe in the power of transforming yourself if you only want it badly enough and concentrate and focus properly.

    It's easy for me to see the likely outcome of events. Like Peguy, it was clear to me that when we invaded Iraq, for example, that it would be like our generation's Vietnam. That was when I felt alienated by the Republican party and left. Just this year, a fellow colleague was awestruck when I said, "You can forget the health care reform. It will have a lot of trouble passing the Congress, even with the majority democrats in both houses, and it will get a lot of contempt from the American people. Either it won't pass, or it will pass in such a weakened state that it either won't help, or it will do more harm than good." I was the only one who thought so. There was no evidence. I just had a feeling. And I was right. The guy came back to me and said, "How did you know?" "I just knew." "You should be a political analyst." HA! Like they would listen, but oh well...
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    this all seems frightfully NTJ-ish
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    2. Extraverted Intuition:

    Extraverted intuition means taking outside impulses and running with it, like a tsunami in your brain, causing death and destruction and chaos...uh, no I'm kidding. It really takes these impulses and goes in an entirely different direction(s).

    For me, extraverted intuition serves a purpose. If I am trying to find solutions, Ne helps me to discover all the likely possibilities. But I do not leave it at that. I use other methods to sort through all the possibilities, discard the silly ones, and leave the good, positive ones that make sense. That helps make the decision process easier.

    Like finding out your type. UGH!

    Extraverted intuition sees things as they could be, not as they are. Sure, I do this, but it is controlled. Not running amok like with other ENFPs that just fart around for the hell of it, and then say, "Ah, who needs fart gas?" That pisses me off.

    Typical example: I talk to some guy on here who has a brilliant idea. He gets excited; I get excited. Then the dope can't even remember the next day what he said, and even if he did, he wouldn't be able to structure and implement it. Probably too high or drunk to notice or too much of an S-tard. Great.

    ^^^ That was an ENTP. Sweet, now let's turn to the dopey ENFP:

    Typical example: Ranting and raving passionately about some dumb-ass cause. Getting all excited and ramming everyone up and down, bitching at everyone who doesn't agree, saying, "Talk to the hand," to people who do not mimic values, and then gets distracted and talks about something else. HUH???? Or says something like, "I don't care if anything ever comes about my crazy, maniacal ranting behavior - I just want to rant because ranting is cool, and I like to see the effect of my irrational Tsunami brain on everyone else." What a dumb ass!

    Somehow these guys manage to get everyone convinced, all excited, and then they say, "Okay, guys, now you run the show" while they drink a beer and burp the alphabet. A joke here and there to keep the show running, and that's that.

    Tell me I'm not one of these guys.

    Then you've got the ladies who say, "YAYYYYYYY I'M BISEXUAL LOOK AT ME I HAVE NO PREFERENCES!!!!!!" or "Look, no shirt!" or "Kissing girls and liking it!" or signs that say "Cocks for sale!" Am I supposed to be impressed by that??? I mean, really? It's like someone draws the never-to-cross line, and you have all these ENXP men and ladies running up and begging, "Can I cross it first??? Can I cross it first? NO ME DAMN IT I WAS HERE FIRST BACK OFF ASSHOLE! YOU'RE NOT LOGICAL!!! WELL YOU HAVE NO MORALS!" ugh. Damn it.

    So many possibilities, and most of them are STUPID. Stupid possibilities. Dumb ass possibilites. No one cares about your cokescapades, okay? No one cares if you drank 5 liters of beer last night and boogied to rave music. Keep your damn weed-growing activities to yourself, and I swear if another fool starts another rant on Vent about sex, drugs, or rock 'n' roll, I'm going to puke in a handbasket.

    And then they start in on their chaotic, crazy, obnoxious lives, and I just think, "Wait a minute? I'm supposed to be that??? You're kidding, right? Tell me you are!!!!"

    Give me an ESTJ any day. At least THEY will be on time, reliable, and not running off to the nearest hottest chick. Possibilities my ass. Anyway.

    Even IF they are technically the most likely to be gifted, I'm sure there are other gifted types without the obnoxious behavior.

    Okay, I'm being obnoxious now, but you get the point.

    Running away from an idea just when it's about to be implemented? HELL NO.
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    Okay, now that that little rant-scapade is over, let's turn to practical ways I use Ne:

    Ne works as the brainstorming factor in the following sequence: Brainstorm, sift, process, act.

    1. Let's say I have a 'difficult' student, and I want to know the best way to help him or her. First, I brainstorm all the possibilities, where I let every idea, no matter how crazy (wait, that's going too far, I usually discard ideas that are too crazy right off the bat), pass through my brain. Then I ask myself, "Does this make sense or not." Then, I will filter it through past experience, ideas, logic, feeling, or whatever is necessary to see if this idea makes sense. I make connections to other things, and see if they fit, like a puzzle.

    If the idea does not make logical sense or sense in any other fashion, I ditch it and look at the next idea. Through process of elimination, I come to the right answer.

    Then, I look at how to deal with this situation. How shall we act? I usually confront the student, and show him/her how I see things, ask for input/reactions, and then act from there.

    Next, I draw up a plan of how to proceed, allowing for creativity, human error, and flexibility as needed.

    Afterwards, I observe the results. If they are not what I expected, I had obviously come up with the wrong conclusion or course of action. Out comes Ne again: What could have gone wrong? Process it through various tools. Come to a conclusion. Present. Reactions? Ideas? Sift? Result. Action. Brainstorm action. Sift. Process. Action.

    See? That's how my brain works.

    2. Let's say my husband and I want to go on vacation. We sit together. Brainstorm. Sift. Process. Act.

    a. Possibilities: Here in Germany? Other countries? Visit my family?
    b. Cost-benefit analysis: financial methods, enjoyment factor, effort, time, activities that can be done, relaxing factor, etc.
    c. Plan: How to implement the best plan.
    d. Do it: Go.
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    does Si enter into things at all? i.e. instinctively comparing new things to "before" to notice tiny differences. Is it something you consciously avoid doing, or does it just not come up naturally?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amargith View Post
    Sorry but you don't 'vibe' structured and organized. You might be it, but your head isn't, I think. I have an ENFP friend just like you. She's crazy chaotic like me in her head, but she was raised by two SJs who loved her dearly and she was able to absorb some of their sense of order. So, now, she, like an SJ, needs her house decluttered and organized in order to relax. She likes to keep on top of things, is pretty ambitious, goal-oriented, and feels like a mess whenever she's not in control.
    I get the same head feeling from her too, Amar. This is similar to my SP sister. I think she is ESFP but might test ESFJ if she were to take the test now as a 30 year old. She was calling herself "anal" yesterday to me about how she likes things exactly in the right places. She learned to deal with her SP in that way to make it through life and to be able to accomplish what matters to her in life, like entertaining at her house, etc. If I hadn't known her as a child & young adult I might not type her SP. (note: I don't think you are SP, LL, but sometimes we learn to work around P to get what we want.)

    What did you type yourself as when you first heard about MBTI?

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    Quote Originally Posted by VagrantFarce View Post
    does Si enter into things at all? i.e. instinctively comparing new things to "before" to notice tiny differences. Is it something you consciously avoid doing, or does it just not come up naturally?
    It's very hard for me to do, takes a lot of energy, so I invest my energy in more efficient ways.

    Quote Originally Posted by Elaur View Post
    I get the same head feeling from her too, Amar. This is similar to my SP sister. I think she is ESFP but might test ESFJ if she were to take the test now as a 30 year old. She was calling herself "anal" yesterday to me about how she likes things exactly in the right places. She learned to deal with her SP in that way to make it through life and to be able to accomplish what matters to her in life, like entertaining at her house, etc. If I hadn't known her as a child & young adult I might not type her SP. (note: I don't think you are SP, LL, but sometimes we learn to work around P to get what we want.)

    What did you type yourself as when you first heard about MBTI?
    The very first time I took the test was during a psychology class at school, where we took a real MBTI. It was before I had ever heard about the theory. I tested IXTJ. That was when I was 18.

    Then again, I behaved very differently back then.

    Listen, you may all be right about the ENFP thing, I don't know. I just want to know how someone who has tested IXTJ for years can shift to ENXP so dramatically.
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    What about Se? Right here, right now, in vivid detail?
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    Quote Originally Posted by VagrantFarce View Post
    What about Se? Right here, right now?
    Nope. Definitely not. Big weakness. BIGGGGGG! (I'm sorry to say).
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