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    Default ENTJ analysis

    Extraverted Thinking

    "Unequivocating" expresses the resoluteness of the ENTJ's dominant function. Hmm, wouldn't go that far. Clarity of convictions endows these Thinkers with a knack for debate, or wanting knack, a penchant for argument. YESSS! Yes yes yes yes! The light and heat generated by Thinking at the helm can be impressive; perhaps even overwhelming. Haha, people have told me this several times. Experience teaches many ENTJs that restraint may often be the better part of valor, lest one find oneself victorious but alone. Heh. You can say that again.

    Introverted iNtuition
    The auxiliary function explores the blueprints of archetypal patterns and equips Thinking with a fresh, dynamic sense of how things work. Yes, that could fit. Improvising on the fly is something many ENTJs do very well. YES! As Thinking's subordinate, insights are of value only insofar as they further the Right, True Cause celebre. [n.b.: ENTJs are capable of living on a higher plane, if you will, and learning to value individuals even above their principles. The above dynamic suggests less individuation.] Think so, yes.

    Extraverted Sensing
    Sensing reaches out to embrace that which physically touches it. ENTJs have an awareness of the real; of that which exists. Um, yes, sometimes...but not always. By stilling the engines of Thinking and iNtuition, this type may experience the Here and Now, and know things not dreamt of nor even postulated in iNtuition's philosophy. No, I wouldn't say so. Sensing's minor role, however, puts it at risk for distortion or extreme weakness beneath the hustle and bustle of the giants N and T. Well, that could be.

    Introverted Feeling
    Feeling is romantic, as the ethereal as the inner world from whence it doth emerge. Yes. When it be awake, feeling evokes great passion that knows not nuance of proportion nor context. Yes. It's overwhelming. Perhaps these lesser functions inspire glorious recreational quests in worlds that never were, or may only ever be in fantasy. When overdone or taken too seriously, Fi turned outward often becomes maudlin or melodramatic. LOL Yes!!!Feeling in this type appears most authentic when implied or expressed covertly in a firm handshake, accepting demeanor, or act of sacrifice thinly covered by excuses of lack of any personal interest in the relinquished item. True.

    Hmm...also very telling. Grr, I hope I'm not chasing my own tail here.
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    Results: So far, it looks like I am a combination of an ENFP/xNTJ. Like a hybrid, so to speak. I must admit, I really related the most to INTJ, almost unequivocally... If I had to choose just from these type descriptions (obviously more research will have to be done) I'd say:

    1. XNTJ
    2. ENFX

    The P really bothers me, though. What if I thought I was Ne all this time, but it was really Ni? It seems that I can relate to the Ni types better.

    Te is so strong as to warrant at least an aux in my opinion. However, I am not certain.

    If not, then ENFJ, where I thought Fe was really Te. That would be the only NF that would make sense for me.

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    A question:

    What do you think Extraverted Thinking entails? Don't quote some type description, just describe it in your own words.

    Not questioning your intelligence, I just want to hear it from your perspective.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VagrantFarce View Post
    A question:

    What do you think Extraverted Thinking entails? Don't quote some type description, just describe it in your own words.

    Not questioning your intelligence, I just want to hear it from your perspective.
    In my opinion, extraverted thinking means the ability to organize and structure myself and the world around me in such a way that I am able to achieve my goals and aims.

    One thing that bothers me about some types is that they have wonderful dreams and goals, but they do not mobilize themselves or use what they have to achieve them.

    Really: What is the point of dreaming if you do not DO SOMETHING??? Get off your big, fat butt and DO something. UGHHH! Frustrating.

    It's like some students. They believe that if you wave a magic wand and say "Abracadabra," they are going to speak better English. Then they bitch and moan about how English shouldn't be the world language, and if it were German, they'd have a much easier time of it. WELL GREAT BUT IT IS NOT!

    Rather than sitting their butts down, taking out the material, and trying, or even asking me or someone for help, they dream their lives away about making lots of money and being wealthy, but they don't want to put in the elbow grease or the mental effort. That drives me batty.

    Another thing some of my fellow dominant intuitive people do: They'll argue something passionately, but they don't care if it will actually be carried out. WHAT A DUMB ASS! Why would you spend hours passionately fighting for something and then not care if it actually gets carried out? It's like you set up for a battle and then retreat with your head kissing your butt. I mean, come on!

    Or it's like having a dream about going to a foreign country. You dream and dream and dream your whole life. BUT NEVER DO IT?!?!?!?! WHY??????!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!? Are you effing stupid?!?!?! Figure it out! Ask questions! DO SOMETHING!!! But just don't sit on your butt all day long dreaming and then never have it come to fruition because you're too stupid or chicken-shit to do it right.

    (I know this sounds crass; I'm usually more diplomatic in my speech, but I think it is important that you know what I am THINKING and not what I actually say. I usually try to be diplomatic and say, "Well, yes, you are trying." or "How can I help?" or "How can we solve this?" But what I'm really thinking is, "YOU STUPID BLOODY IDIOTIC M-F!!!!! MOVE YOUR ASS! I did it; you can do it! Why are you bitching all day and not doing anything?! I know what will solve your problems!!!!" *picks them head over heels and dumps them out of a four-floor building.* Not that I actually do that - I mean there ARE some times where your dreams SHOULDN'T come to fruition.)

    UGHHH! I wanna shake these people or throw them out the window. I mean really. And sorry, but a lot of Ns around here are like whaaa whaaa whaaaaaaa all the time but don't get off their butts and do anything. UGH!

    Extraverted thinking means taking these great, marvelous plans/designs/ideas/concepts and PUTTING THEM into PRACTICE or at least mobilizing the resources to do it.

    To sum up, my extraverted thinking says: Get it? Got it? DO IT! Don't get it? MAKE IT! Don't got it? FIND IT! Don't do it? I KILL YOU! (Okay, not quite that dramatic, but you get it).

    (Get the idea, got the resources, GO!)

    And just as a side note, my feeling is way too weird and over-the-top and unnatural to be a feeler. I think. But whatever, we'll see.
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    Okay, now that I ranted that little parody, let me give you an example of when I use extraverted thinking:

    1. About a year ago, I had a dream of starting my own language school. Of course, I had a funny feeling that I was being a little too idealistic about the whole idea in my brain, so I decided the important thing was to see if reality meshed with the ideas and concepts in my brain.

    So I went to the Chamber of Commerce here and got some information on self-employment. After reading the material, I did a cost-benefit analysis in my head and realized that the costs outweighed the benefits, especially if I were going it alone. In addition, I really did not have the materials or resources, and mobilizing them would be too risky (I do not want to get into the specifics, as it would make the situation too complicated).

    Here, I made a very rational decision after informing myself, speaking to various individuals, and looking at various examples. At the end, I decided it was not for me and dropped the idea.

    2. Now let's have an example where Te led to a positive result. My whole life, I had wanted to go to Germany. It was this drive, this desire that would not go away. I had dreamt about it quite often, but again, I wanted to make sure reality matched fiction.

    This time, I found a very old German book and taught myself German. Since it was written in old script, it was like a puzzle, and it was quite fascinating. At the age of 13 I found a pen-pal service quite by accident through a Catholic magazine my family got for me. For years, I spoke to Germans via real snail mail and practiced my written German. Then, when I was 20, I went and stayed with my then-boyfriend (now ex) for three months, and I fell in love with the country. It was then that I was sure I wanted to stay here.

    Once I was sure that I wanted to stay in Germany, I planned my whole curriculum in such a way that I would make all the efforts in the world to get there. Because my family did not have the resources, I knew I would have to find alternatives. I actively sought them out through various different research sessions on the Internet about work/study programs, travel abroad programs, etc. Through my university, I basically narrowed my search to research and teaching abroad. I applied, put my best foot forward, and basically made an unequivocal, confident argument in favor of acceptance to the Fulbright scholarship. Afterwards, I got accepted, and I fulfilled my dream, got the resources, and landed in one of the best areas of Germany.

    Now what a LOT of Ns would have done (that I see around here) is dream, and dream and dream but complain they do not have the resources or knowledge or ability to do something like that. They don't have the nerve to really get out there and SEARCH and DO...I think. I don't know, but it is completely unfathomable that if you want something THAT BADLY that you would not get off your butt and do something.

    Do some of these people like being miserable or what? I just don't get it!

    I plan, as the Germans say, "Mit langer Hand" (with a long hand, literally). Meaning once I have a goal, I am hell-bound determined to get it, and I won't rest until I do.

    The only problem is if I do NOT have a goal. Then I sort of float, unhappy, without meaning or purpose, and that really gets me depressed.
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    OK, now do the same for Ne and Ni!
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    Another bit of insight:

    You know what irritates me the most about type descriptions? They seem so extreme. You read all of them and think, "Can that be me? No. Can that be me? Hell no. Can that be me? *alert buzzer* Wrong. Can..." and so on.

    I know I piss some people off by always questioning my type. However, my inquiry is not intended for that.

    I'm just trying to reconcile 25 years of IXTJ-ness with 4 years of XNFP-ness. Just...does...not...make...any...sense...

    Combined with the fact that I really cannot relate to 95% of the ENFPs on here, and that many of their quirky weird ways just makes me go ---> in spite of their charm, and well...

    I really don't think I'm a P. And this grates on my nerves.
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    why dont you go in the old fashioned way ; by temperaments? do you feel more like NF, NT or SJ?

    I mean, I cant understand how NF can't recognize himself.. we're so obvious, mostly. Aren't we? I mean, I can like NT stuff, but my spiritual self, self-search is much bigger than my NT side... and most NFs are like that. Either you're all about soul, or you aren't. I know many would disagree with this, but actually I didnt see much cases that go against it. Ex. I know one guy who mistyped himself as ENFP and is ESFP, I noticed he's ESFP because he doesnt have as big, or as priority, that spiritual side. He's more into play. ENFP will be into play, but I think most of ENFPs will put spiritual side of life on first place, then play or intellectual side... and usually all that combined together <3

    and NFs and NTs can have completely same interests in life and do the same thing, but they'll do it, mostly, with different motives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Linguist View Post

    Not such a flighty, weird, nutty, drug-using, alcohol-consuming, lari-fari, we-all-have-something-to-offer, let's-have-a-crazy-sexual-avatar, OMG-like-my-values, let's-all-hug-each-other, we-are-all-the-same, having-a-billion-friends-and-acquaintances, crazy, bizarre, feeling, weird, annoying, wacked-out ENFP. (I probably just alienated myself from 99% of ENFPs out there, and get a bunch of hate mail saying I'm stereotyping against ENFPs, but whatever...they strike me as a bunch of hippies just coasting through life. REALLY.) <--- Fe-fail, sorry folks. Well, no I'm not. It's true; it is my impression of a LOT of them. Just have to do a head-smack when I think I'm one of these guys.
    LOL. seriously, who said you're NF ? :lol: no way

    Just a normal, structured, focused, career-oriented, ambitious, quiet, non-party going, just-having-a-few-friends-once-in-a-while, fair, strict, non-rebellious, non-drinking-smoking-drug-using, loyal, reliable, punctual, dependable, dealing-by-the-rules-unless-the-rules-don't-make-sense, analytical, thinking, DECENT ENFP??? That's my type, whatever that is.

    That's ESTJ.

    you do seem to fit in SJ temperament.. don't you?
    and i agree with positive sides of being an S, I'd like to find out I'm S, too.

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    Sorry but you don't 'vibe' structured and organized. You might be it, but your head isn't, I think. I have an ENFP friend just like you. She's crazy chaotic like me in her head, but she was raised by two SJs who loved her dearly and she was able to absorb some of their sense of order. So, now, she, like an SJ, needs her house decluttered and organized in order to relax. She likes to keep on top of things, is pretty ambitious, goal-oriented, and feels like a mess whenever she's not in control. She's still ENFP though. I noticed that the second I met her (and I knew about MBTI). She took the test, and yup. Confirmed. The way she talks and experiences things and relates to what is important to her...she's a Fi-user alright. And she Ne's like mad. She just was taught to be an SJ in daily life (which sometimes seriously stresses her out, but I have to admit she's got a better grasp on life than Ido and is more level-headed and practical in most cases).
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