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    @Bijection So what you're saying is... haters are just jealous?

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    They're a good scapegoat. Especially good because nobody in the scapegoat group is around to defend themselves. Especially especially good because, since everyone uses them as a scapegoat, scapegoating them just snowballs until they become the source of all of everyone's problems.

    And their dichotomies (at least on paper) are near-opposite to most others' (sans one or two dichotomies). That makes it easy and natural to make them the scapegoat.

    It doesn't take a Thinking type to point that out.

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    What do you think?
    Makes sense overall. I personally buy into around 50-60% of Socionics in general. But a few things:

    - MBTI's INTP doesn't necessarily match one-to-one with the Socionics INTj. It's a trend for sure, but there are exceptions. How many exceptions? I'm not sure. We might be able to ignore this problem altogether.
    - In MBTI, the third and fourth functions are considered completely contrary to the ego. As such, they're seen as undesirable. That is, until people grow the hell up and realize that there's more to life than their own dominant perspective..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Girlonfire View Post
    No, no, no. She didn't say "attention whore," she said they like to hoard attention! This makes a world of difference. My long-term ESFJ "friend" likes to butt out anyone who gets any attention at all. While we love attention as ENTPs, we like to make sure that everyone is happy. For the ESFJ, they like to make sure that they are the ONLY ones who are happy. Don't jump down the ENTPs throat. You're twisting their words.

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    Because if they're shitty they'll be in your face about it, unlike an IxFx who will mope in the corner and wait for you to ask them what's wrong.


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    Quote Originally Posted by EJCC View Post
    Observation from reading the earlier pages of this thread: God DAMN has this forum improved since 2009.
    Or...moar filturd.
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    I statistically happen to like them very much.
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    This thread reminds me of the youtube video whereas the ESFJ male reads what people said about ESFJs. He looked incredibly angry.
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    but..I'm pretty okay with ESFJ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Girlonfire View Post
    No, no, no. She didn't say "attention whore," she said they like to hoard attention! This makes a world of difference. My long-term ESFJ "friend" likes to butt out anyone who gets any attention at all. While we love attention as ENTPs, we like to make sure that everyone is happy. For the ESFJ, they like to make sure that they are the ONLY ones who are happy. Don't jump down the ENTPs throat. You're twisting their words.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Girlonfire View Post
    as ENTPs, we like to make sure that everyone is happy. For the ESFJ, they like to make sure that they are the ONLY ones who are happy.
    You.. you seriously think that ENTPs care more about making everyone happy than ESFJs do?

    Do you also believe that ESFJs will walk down the street and knock ice cream cones out of childrens' hands just to make them miserable? That they lie in wait under childrens' beds so that they can spook them at night and then kill their parents? That they would deny a loan application from a young and desperate couple who need a bit of help, just because they want to? Piss in every sandbox? Gleefully knock down every NTP's safe space?
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