That's a good point. Do you think Babylon is like that though? I don't get a "my way or the highway" vibe from him.
Originally Posted by Jaguar
Here's a little extra food for thought, from the enneagram institute site:
Misidentifying Ones and Nines
Usually this mistype is caused by confusion about the wing and dominant type: is the person a Nine with a One-wing or a One with a Nine-wing? In some cases, with a strong wing, this can be a difficult call. Both can be idealistic, philosophical, and somewhat withdrawn. Neither feels comfortable with their anger. Usually, the Nine's reluctance to get into conflicts is the easiest way to discern these adjacent types. Average Nines want to maintain peace in their lives, and while they may hold strong personal convictions, they generally do not want to argue about them with people–especially people with whom they have an emotional attachment. For Ones, however, the principle is foremost, and Ones will drive home their point to convert the other to their view, even if it risks creating upsets and arguments. ("The truth is the truth.")
While Nines can be hard workers, it does not take much to convince them that a break would be useful. They enjoy down time, and tend to have difficulty shifting gears from relaxation to activity or vice versa. Ones are extremely driven and have difficulty tearing themselves away from their various projects to take a rest or relax. They feel anxious when they are not being productive (like Threes), and want to get back to work to avoid attacks from their superego.
Another distinction can be found in how the two types handle stress. Nines initially become more emotionally disengaged and resistant, but eventually become more anxious and reactive as they go to Six. Ones, initially become more fervent in their efforts to convince the other that they are right, but then collapse into moodiness and a tight-lipped testiness as they go to Four.
Now, that being said, I consider myself a 9wing, but I have stood up in front of hundreds of people to argue for what I feel is right, and have risked much to do so. I constantly feel like I am wasting time if I am not working on my projects. So do I think these describe everyone perfectly? No. But perhaps this little snippet will help Babylon discern some additional feelings on the topic.
I'm not an enneagram or MBTI expert, and ultimately only Babylon can come to a type conclusion. I can go from what I sense, and he does seem more driven to me than the average ENFP. I am not 100% confidently feeling the J vibe, the outward Fe conclusiveness. There's definitely something pushing him, something that doesn't allow him to relax and explore who he is. A restlessness if you will.
I have thought on LL's recent transition too, from ENFP to ESTJ. Reflected on the relevance of that here. Again, I just don't feel the decisiveness. I feel the conviction, just not the sweeping confidence that generally holds hands with it.
Curious to see how this continues to unwind. I am happy to share my feelings, whatever label they belong to.