haha. I'm usually in an I mood if I spend tons of time on here like today.
If I just check it real quick or post a couple things then i'm usually in an E mood, and don't have time let alone think to change it.
Yeah..no deal. I tend to be in an E mood when I go crazy and flirt like mad on here. Consider me loud and boisterous at my So and friends then as well. Quiet contemplation, observation and serious convo without sledgehammering people tends to indicate I. Stilll all on this board though. I love Ne. I can have fun without going out at all
Though some of the Se-users on here make me wanna go out...
BTW, Wolfie is trying to go T, so you might have your work cut out for ya
OK, why don't you tell me what does ESFJs have in common with ENTPs, other than the fact that we share the same function in reverse order?
A lot actually. When I go through my groups of friends, the catalyst of each group is a get-things-going person. Surprisingly, this means ENTP, ENFP, ESFP and ESFJ all end up serving a similar role when it comes to group interaction. That would be the genus, while the difference you are noticing is the combinations of pragmatic/affiliative and concrete/abstract.
Originally Posted by Jaguar
I both direct and inform.
I use both concrete and abstract communication.
I both initiate and respond.
All of the above is situational for me. I can't imagine being so one-sided like an unbalanced seesaw crashing to the ground.
The only thing that stands out for me in a big way, is being pragmatic rather than affiliative.
My instinct is to act independently.
It's a shame people don't realize how much these false dichotomies actually encourage unhealthy behavior and unsuccessful results in the real world.
You have to be flexible in dealing with people in business, for example, lest you end up delivering pizza for a living.
Jaguar, I think this method of typing is best used on other people that you dont know that well, and cant give the test. In that situation, people really do tend to exhibit say "directing and responding" in a way that is more typeable than just guessing. The test doesnt encourage a false dichotomy, it merely takes advantage of what happens in reality.
Originally Posted by Amargith
I like acting on my own. I'll consider the group because it makes me feel guilty and blue if I don't, but it's a hassle.
Originally Posted by MacGuffin
I've noticed Fs shying away from Affiliative like not being Pragmatic makes you stupid.
"Affiliative roles require that people act in community, with a sense of what is good for the group. They may be people or task focused. They may be practical or idealistic. No matter what, there is always some sense of cooperation and agreement, even if competing or being an individual."
The bold is key. A "community" may be two people. Or do you prefer competition?
I will agree that "group" can just be the two of you. Even when Im in a group of two, I try to reach consensus before I apply pressure to arrive at where I think we should go. I think people are thinking that it means "take care of the group", which is not what it means.
I do have a question, though.
ESFJ and ENFJ.
--ENFJ is abstract, ESFJ is concrete
Yet ENFJ is directive and ESJF is informative. Im just curious "how this works". What makes a Fe-dom be directive? Or more, how would you distinguish directing Fe vs informing Fe? Can anyone tease out the difference? Im really curious how this Fe becomes more directive, while the ESFJ Fe remains more informing.