User Tag List

First 123 Last

Results 11 to 20 of 30

  1. #11
    Senior Member VagrantFarce's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Posts
    1,557

    Default

    they both belong to the same interaction style (behind the scenes), so it's not suprising
    Hello

  2. #12
    Ginkgo
    Guest

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by OrangeAppled View Post
    In reality, an ISFJ is much more likely to be confused with an INFP though. I suspect there are a few ISFJs in INFP clothing around here and on other MBTI boards. People mistake their nurturing and self-sacrificing with INFP idealistic driven compassion and emotional healing. Two very different things...

    I would go with ISTJ based on your description. I confused an ISTJ once for INFP based solely on the fact that he had a very altruistic streak. He volunteered a lot, and generally took a strong interest in helping people. However, SJs are duty-fulfilling types, and often have traditional values that include caring for their community. Their motivation comes from a different place, and they tend to aid people in practical ways and by doing things for them. I think NFs love that side of them, and we tend to want to own and identify with what we love.


    A few other confusing qualities:

    ISTJs can seem crusty on the surface, but may seem friendly to strangers because it is appropriate.

    INFPs can seem cranky because Fi doesn't care about what it "should" care about, but when Fi does care, an INFP can seem very warm and caring.

    Sardonic sense of humor....INFPs will be more abstract though, and it will hit you randomly. ISTJs tend to be more observational and dry.
    From what you're describing, my dad is more ISTJ. He doesn't seem driven by humanitarian needs, per se. He's more technical. The word "Crusty" has exactitude.

    I can personally relate with the random, abstract, snide remarks. They usually occur when I see someone as being meticulous or irrational.

  3. #13
    Crazy Diamond Billy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    MBTI
    INFJ
    Posts
    1,196

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Mystic Tater View Post
    I feel like an ignorant dolt for asking this, but is my dad an INFP or an ISTJ?

    Keep in mind that these types differentiate by three whole letters. However, my question still stands as feasible because both INFP and ISTJ exhibit use of Fi and Si.

    Now, I previously believed my father to be an INFP with strong Te tendencies because Te apparently develops in INFPs around middle-age. (Or so some theories suggest).

    However, upon completing the MBTI test in Please Understand Me II, his result was ISTJ.

    The composition of his characteristics -

    -Easy to get along with strangers

    -Very politically conservative

    -Religiously astute

    -Wears very formal clothes, as if he is at work 24/7

    -Does not like to experience variety unless forced

    -Dry sense of humor that usually consists of erratic behavior

    -Good at reconciling separate parties when needed

    -Extremely introverted

    -Does not appreciate criticism (He does not make this apparent, but I can sense some sort of Fi ruffling underneath his posterior)

    -Often refers back to memories when conversing with people

    -Enjoys technology

    -Loathes destruction of property, even in the slightest sense

    -Goes through great lengths to avoid damaging things

    -Very passive aggressive

    -Anal retentive about money/time spent

    -Can hold abstract conversation quite pointedly

    -Often listens to talk shows involving politics

    -Quite intelligent, with copious vocabulary

    -When a new or challenging experience presents itself, has a funny and befuddled expression on his face (:steam: :confused: :ouch

    -Does not watch movies or entertainment very often


    The more I describe him, the more I realize that he's probably a guardian temperament.

    I can't believe I thought he was an INFP!
    Sounds like my buddy Dana who is an ISTJ

  4. #14
    A Benign Tumor PoprocksAndCoke's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    MBTI
    ENTP
    Socionics
    ENFp
    Posts
    614

    Default

    I think INTJ. He doesn't seem like an INFJ.
    "In order for the light to shine so brightly, the darkness must be present." -Francis Bacon

    "No matter how dark the moment, love and hope are always possible." -George Chakiris

  5. #15
    Nerd King Usurper Edgar's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    MBTI
    INTJ
    Posts
    4,209

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Mystic Tater View Post
    INFPs are more similar to ISTJs than ISFJs according to functional analysis.
    That's why I don't follow functional analysis.

    "Paging Dr. Simulated world..."
    Listen to me, baby, you got to understand, you're old enough to learn the makings of a man.

  6. #16
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Posts
    104

    Default

    typing other people is hard. I'm an ENTJ, but I'm often confused with an ESTP.

  7. #17
    Nerd King Usurper Edgar's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    MBTI
    INTJ
    Posts
    4,209

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by capricorn009 View Post
    typing other people is hard. I'm an ENTJ, but I'm often confused with an ESTP.
    ENTJs and ESTPs are both extraverted utilitarian thinkers, so it's easy to confuse the two.

    I've pointed out before how those two types can appear similar to each other, but a lot of ig'nant people on this board don't believe me.
    Listen to me, baby, you got to understand, you're old enough to learn the makings of a man.

  8. #18
    Senior Member incubustribute's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    MBTI
    ISFJ
    Posts
    297

    Default

    ha yes simulated would be of help here. I think ISTJ though, like beyond a doubt.

  9. #19
    Senior Member Space_Oddity's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    MBTI
    CAT
    Posts
    359

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Edgar View Post
    ENTJs and ESTPs are both extraverted utilitarian thinkers, so it's easy to confuse the two.

    I've pointed out before how those two types can appear similar to each other, but a lot of ig'nant people on this board don't believe me.
    It depends on the individual. Perhaps you know some ESTPs who can be confused with ENTJs, but other people on this site don't, so they naturally won't believe you. (Actually, I do. When I was still new to typology, I initially typed one guy as ESTP, but after I studied it into depth it became clear he was unmistakeably an ENTJ. The "cover" was similar, the "inner principles" definitely not. He wasn't after fun, he was after power. ) Judging from the functions, ESFPs could be more likely confused with ENTJs, and I am acquainted with one ENTJ girl whose lifestyle was very ESFP when she was a teenager, but saying that it's a rule would be a stretch, and even Forer effect.

    You seem to imply that ISFJs are more likely to be confused with INFPs than ISTJs, well, in some cases that's true, in others - absolutely not. For example, my INFP father has very strong Si and Ti and is a workaholic, hence he could outwardly seem like an ISTJ, and my INFP brother has apparently taken the same route, taking up Te for Ti, which made him extremely hard to type at first, but the thought patterns always give people away. People with high Ne always primarily look for possibilities and always try to balance people who are too "convinced" about their own truths, because for them, no truth is definite. Even when they seem very convinced themselves, it's only because they've already explored all the other possibilities and finally decided than one of them agrees the most with their own principles, be it Fi or Ti. (But this is already off-topic...)

    To the OP, I agree with the ISTJ typing (your father actually sounds like a very strong ISTJ). Fe is fairly easy to spot and nothing you described indicates it, so I'd exclude the ISFJ.

  10. #20
    Nerd King Usurper Edgar's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    MBTI
    INTJ
    Posts
    4,209

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Space_Oddity View Post
    It depends on the individual. Perhaps you know some ESTPs who can be confused with ENTJs, but other people on this site don't, so they naturally won't believe you. (Actually, I do. When I was still new to typology, I initially typed one guy as ESTP, but after I studied it into depth it became clear he was unmistakeably an ENTJ. The "cover" was similar, the "inner principles" definitely not. He wasn't after fun, he was after power. )
    Actually, I forgot to expound on my statement. From what I noticed, ENTJ men seem to be fairly easy to confuse with ESTP men, but not the other way around. I theorized that it is due to the fact that a lot of male ENTJs tend to adapt ESTP social tactics due to their seeming effectiveness... of course, some ENTJs on the board (*cough*Jaguar*cogh*) disagree.. but anyway, it was just my theory.

    Judging from the functions, ESFPs could be more likely confused with ENTJs, and I am acquainted with one ENTJ girl whose lifestyle was very ESFP when she was a teenager, but saying that it's a rule would be a stretch, and even Forer effect.
    ENTJ women, just as ENTJ men, prize control and competence. For a woman, a lot of her worth is derived from the fact of how many men desire her. I've seen many ENTJ women notice that their more "feminine" counterparts like ENFPs and ESFPs get more male attention, even though being not significantly (if it all) better looking than ENTJs themselves. So in turn, those ENTJ women would attempt to mimic their counterparts to obtain the same results.

    Now why wouldn't other types of women use the same tactics as ENTJ women. Well the thing is, ENTJs, being NTs, tend to pay close attention to systems and patterns . And being extraverts, they value social competence greatly. So they see effective patterns of other socially "desirable" types and attempt to incorporate that into their own behavior.

    I haven't seen ENTPs do the same thing that ENTJs seem to do. That's either because ENTPs already view themselves as sufficiently socially competent, or they do not care for implementing other type's abilities.
    [/QUOTE]
    Listen to me, baby, you got to understand, you're old enough to learn the makings of a man.

Similar Threads

  1. Is my friend an ISFP or INFP?
    By Nicki in forum What's my Type?
    Replies: 9
    Last Post: 07-14-2015, 04:39 PM
  2. Is my Dad an INTJ or INTP?
    By Kenneth Almighty in forum What's my Type?
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 12-05-2009, 03:12 PM
  3. Is my friend an iNFP? Second opinion anyone?
    By PoprocksAndCoke in forum What's my Type?
    Replies: 59
    Last Post: 11-15-2009, 02:38 PM
  4. Is My Mom an ENFJ or ESFJ?
    By Ginkgo in forum What's my Type?
    Replies: 35
    Last Post: 10-13-2009, 10:27 PM
  5. [ENFP] Was my dad an ENFP or ISFP??
    By BookLady in forum The NF Idyllic (ENFP, INFP, ENFJ, INFJ)
    Replies: 19
    Last Post: 06-19-2008, 10:15 AM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
Single Sign On provided by vBSSO