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    Quote Originally Posted by fidelia View Post
    Still very sure that the S/N thing isn't up for grabs. I don't relate well to most Ss, even though I've had to learn to deal with SJs quite regularly, so am improving at finding ways of presenting information so that they will be more receptive.

    I think this problem of not ruling out extraneous information tends to happen more with subjects that I feel strongly about or care about. A research paper on something fairly straightforward with clear guidelines is really no big deal.

    It's when I have a vision of what it should be, but it seems kind of like you can't actually touch it or get your hands on it - it's hazy in the distance, yet you have a very clear idea in mind of what you want. Kind of like a mirage or something. I'm not even sure I'm explaining this right. I find it's the same when I draw or write. I have this abstract image of what I want something to be, but am always disappointed with the pale and puny version of it in reality. I know enough to know whether I have it the way I want it or not, but can't get ahold of it well enough to recreate it outside my mind.
    Hello, Ni.

    The other time I have problems is when someone is asking me to write something from a standpoint that I truly can't agree with and when the parameters are not well defined. An example of this is a master's level final paper. I was supposed to write this paper, making a case for teaching Metis fiddle music across all Canadian schools, using multicultural theorists' writings to build my case. Unfortunately all of these writings very specifically referenced situations unique to the US, particularly the plight of Latino and Afro-American populations in rural centres. Not only were those histories and situations completely different than Canada, but the Canadian school system is set up on entirely different principles that do not relate. In addition, the prof still refuses to give any indication of length or depth expected in delving into these possible arguments (I've tried on three different occasions). I would pick just three or four main arguments, but there is not enough literature to cite numerous different people on each (or lots of different literature by the same person) and the prof has also randomly asked a couple of specific questions that she'd like worked in, which indicate the desire for a lot of detail and arguments. In addition, the argument the paper is supposed to make is directly opposed to what I actually believe and after consulting several other Canadian educators and profs have not gotten anything tht would help me make further headway. To date, I have tried about 10 different outlines and spent weeks on the thing.
    Sounds like you are struggling for two reasons, the lack of structure or definition and because you don't believe in the premise. If you don't buy it, you can't sell it. Hello, Fe. Unfortunately it's your Fe that is blocking you. Would you find it easier to write a paper on the exact opposite premise? Are you dismissing your own arguments in your mind because you are unconsciously fighting for the other side?

    A Te dom would say "Maybe something better will come along, but in the meantime this is the best I've got, I'll do as much with the studies as I can". Te doesn't have to believe, it can happily play devil's advocate. In fact the confirmation bias would kick in and the argument would revolve around whatever meager data there is to back it up.

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    I think you're right. However, is that Fe or Fi? Isn't Fi about wanting to be true to your own beliefs (even in a hypothetical sense?). Or is it just that I'd feel like a fraud trying to make someone believe in something that I don't?

    Definitely you're right about the Te dom thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fidelia View Post
    I think you're right. However, is that Fe or Fi? Isn't Fi about wanting to be true to your own beliefs (even in a hypothetical sense?). Or is it just that I'd feel like a fraud trying to make someone believe in something that I don't?

    Definitely you're right about the Te dom thing.
    In the case of the paper you are writing, the conclusion will affect other people, not you, right? You don't want to put forward a case you don't believe will benefit others. So that could be Fe. You probably also have a pretty developed Fi. A lot of people have good use of both versions of their top two functions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cascadeco View Post

    (I would say this could be also why I love nature so much. I feel a part of things, I feel and recognize my connection to the life around me...and hence don't necessarily feel alone.)
    That's how I feel about nature, too.
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