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    Quote Originally Posted by Intricate Mystic View Post
    The ISTP description here [http://www.personalitypage.com/ISTP_car.html] states that ISTPs are "usually able to master theory and abstract thinking, but don't particularly like dealing with it unless they see a practical application". I have a theory that high IQ ISTPs have more well-developed abstract thinking skills than the norm and thus can appear to be INTPs.

    What is your intensive side like, i.e. what are you intense about?
    well I like to fight, train mixed martial arts, that's a big one. I enjoy sports but also serious intellectual conversations. I listen to powerful music, I use to play concerts and shows when I was in a band a few years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jixmixfix View Post
    well I like to fight, train mixed martial arts, that's a big one. I enjoy sports but also serious intellectual conversations. I listen to powerful music, I use to play concerts and shows when I was in a band a few years ago.
    You can enjoy serious intellectual conversations and still be an ISTP. Also, most people don't fit their type descriptions 100%. I would just go with the type that is the best fit, overall. Also, in reading some of your posts in other threads, it seems like most people think you are an ISTP, and your own descriptions of yourself point in that direction, yet you seem to keep questioning your type. I'm wondering if there are aspects of the ISTP type description that you don't like and perhaps you would prefer to be an INTP?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jixmixfix View Post
    well I like to fight, train mixed martial arts, that's a big one. I enjoy sports but also serious intellectual conversations. I listen to powerful music, I use to play concerts and shows when I was in a band a few years ago.
    Introverts enjoy deeper conversations, which could be what you're enjoying there, rather than the theoretical aspect of it. Would you consider yourself to be concrete or abstract? Just observe yourself when you describe something, an Ne user would try to relate what they're describing to something they already know, whereas and Se user would describe it how it how it appears to be.

    Quote Originally Posted by Intricate Mystic View Post
    You can enjoy serious intellectual conversations and still be an ISTP. Also, most people don't fit their type descriptions 100%. I would just go with the type that is the best fit, overall. Also, in reading some of your posts in other threads, it seems like most people think you are an ISTP, and your own descriptions of yourself point in that direction, yet you seem to keep questioning your type. I'm wondering if there are aspects of the ISTP type description that you don't like and perhaps you would prefer to be an INTP?
    jixmixfix is likely to be an enneagram 6 (or at least have a 6 wing):
    “As my anxiety has come under control, so has my need to ‘check out’ everything with my friends. I used to have to get the nod of approval from several hundred (just joking!) ‘authorities.’ About nearly every decision would involve a council of my friends. I usually would do this one on one: ‘What do you think, Mary?’ ‘If I do this, then that might happen.’ Please make up my mind for me!’…Recently, I’ve narrowed my authorities to just one or two trusted friends, and on occasion, I’ve actually made up my own mind!“
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    Quote Originally Posted by King-Of-Despair View Post
    Introverts enjoy deeper conversations, which could be what you're enjoying there, rather than the theoretical aspect of it. Would you consider yourself to be concrete or abstract? Just observe yourself when you describe something, an Ne user would try to relate what they're describing to something they already know, whereas and Se user would describe it how it how it appears to be.



    jixmixfix is likely to be an enneagram 6 (or at least have a 6 wing):
    what the hell is an ennagram 6 lol. I dunno I seem to think i'm INTP because I'm actually in my head alot... usually thats what an INTP basically is, someone who thinks to himself alot. But truth is i really enjoy being in the moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by King-Of-Despair View Post
    Introverts enjoy deeper conversations, which could be what you're enjoying there, rather than the theoretical aspect of it. Would you consider yourself to be concrete or abstract? Just observe yourself when you describe something, an Ne user would try to relate what they're describing to something they already know, whereas and Se user would describe it how it how it appears to be.



    jixmixfix is likely to be an enneagram 6 (or at least have a 6 wing):
    give me an example of the describing aspect of an "N" or "s"

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    Would you rather be working on an engine or a theory as a hobby?

    engine = ISTP
    theory = INTP

    ISTP have mechanical magic
    INTP have abstract theory language

    both can be as complex as anything.


    Being in the moment
    This is SP orientation

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    There's a fairly good chance that you're an S, if you weren't, I doubt that you'd need this example (in fact, I was convinced I already gave you one, lol). Say you're looking at a table, you see that it has curves:

    1. If you're a Sensor, you might look to your past experiences, seeing curves somewhere, it reminds you of how the feel, how the shadows bounce off of it, and you understand the curves in that wood using what your senses have already gathered.

    2. An Intuitive on the other hand, would relate the curve to what they've gathered theoretically about it. The curve should be fashioned in such a way, it's shadows might do this or that, they reference their understanding back to the theoretical knowledge of what a curve is, rather than what they have seen it to be.

    So when gathering data, a sensor will gather practical, concrete data about the object in question (eg. the car was yellow). An intuitive would look for patterns to form a theory in which to understand what they are looking at (eg. not very many cars are yellow).
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    Quote Originally Posted by King-Of-Despair View Post
    There's a fairly good chance that you're an S, if you weren't, I doubt that you'd need this example (in fact, I was convinced I already gave you one, lol). Say you're looking at a table, you see that it has curves:

    1. If you're a Sensor, you might look to your past experiences, seeing curves somewhere, it reminds you of how the feel, how the shadows bounce off of it, and you understand the curves in that wood using what your senses have already gathered.

    2. An Intuitive on the other hand, would relate the curve to what they've gathered theoretically about it. The curve should be fashioned in such a way, it's shadows might do this or that, they reference their understanding back to the theoretical knowledge of what a curve is, rather than what they have seen it to be.

    So when gathering data, a sensor will gather practical, concrete data about the object in question (eg. the car was yellow). An intuitive would look for patterns to form a theory in which to understand what they are looking at (eg. not very many cars are yellow).
    I do tend to think theoretically like that but only when it relates to something practical...hmm I think I know where this is going..

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    Quote Originally Posted by durentu View Post
    Would you rather be working on an engine or a theory as a hobby?

    engine = ISTP
    theory = INTP

    ISTP have mechanical magic
    INTP have abstract theory language

    both can be as complex as anything.



    This is SP orientation
    yeah i know the basics problem is there are times where i'm actually not in the moment and in my head alot... and then there are times where I'm in the moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by King-Of-Despair View Post
    There's a fairly good chance that you're an S, if you weren't, I doubt that you'd need this example (in fact, I was convinced I already gave you one, lol). Say you're looking at a table, you see that it has curves:

    1. If you're a Sensor, you might look to your past experiences, seeing curves somewhere, it reminds you of how the feel, how the shadows bounce off of it, and you understand the curves in that wood using what your senses have already gathered.

    2. An Intuitive on the other hand, would relate the curve to what they've gathered theoretically about it. The curve should be fashioned in such a way, it's shadows might do this or that, they reference their understanding back to the theoretical knowledge of what a curve is, rather than what they have seen it to be.

    So when gathering data, a sensor will gather practical, concrete data about the object in question (eg. the car was yellow). An intuitive would look for patterns to form a theory in which to understand what they are looking at (eg. not very many cars are yellow).
    maybe I think I'm an N because I spend alot of time in my life thinking about theory is relating to something practical in my life...

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