INTP or ISTP?

[iamathousandapples]

Well, I frequently get typed as both. Even my Enneagram(5w6 1st - 5w4 2nd) and Socionics(ILI 1st - SLI 2nd) scores haven't helped me much. I'm not sure what else to post here that would serve of any use but...

 

[Jeffster]

What do you live for?

 

[iamathousandapples]

What do you live for?

I'm not exactly sure...To be happy I guess...

 

[Jeffster]

I'm not exactly sure...To be happy I guess...

What makes you happy?

Does anything motivate you?

 

[Snow Turtle]

I'm not exactly sure...To be happy I guess...

How can you achieve this?
What Jeffster said basically. @.@

 

[iamathousandapples]

What makes you happy?

Does anything motivate you?

Changing past mistakes. Everything stupid that I end up saying I look back on and I hate myself for it.

 

[Mondo]

Which of these descriptions fits you better?

Quiet and reserved, interested in how and why things work. Excellent skills with mechanical things. Risk-takers who they live for the moment. Usually interested in and talented at extreme sports. Uncomplicated in their desires. Loyal to their peers and to their internal value systems, but not overly concerned with respecting laws and rules if they get in the way of getting something done. Detached and analytical, they excel at finding solutions to practical problems.

Logical, original, creative thinkers. Can become very excited about theories and ideas. Exceptionally capable and driven to turn theories into clear understandings. Highly value knowledge, competence and logic. Quiet and reserved, hard to get to know well. Individualistic, having no interest in leading or following others.

I'm guessing you'll be able to tell pretty easily which type is what- but really think about which description fits you better..
I got these from The Personality Page.

The Sixteen Personality Types - High-Level

A way that helped me figure out I was an ENTP was that I showed some of my friends these descriptions and asked them which one they thought fit me best- everyone picked the ENTP description for me.

 

[VagrantFarce]

Changing past mistakes. Everything stupid that I end up saying I look back on and I hate myself for it.

sounds like Si, INTP!!!!!!11

 

[Colors]

Changing past mistakes. Everything stupid that I end up saying I look back on and I hate myself for it.

Wow, apples, that's really harsh. Saying stupid things sucks, but you kind of learn new things from other people's reactions to it. At least I hope so.

 

[iamathousandapples]

Wow, apples, that's really harsh. Saying stupid things sucks, but you kind of learn new things from other people's reactions to it. At least I hope so.

That's just how I see it right then. When I look back at when I say things, I end up analyzing other people's reactions and come to what I should have done then when I was usually(at that time) unphased by anything, and that ends up pounding through the rest of my thoughts.

 

[Riva]

Changing past mistakes. Everything stupid that I end up saying I look back on and I hate myself for it.

i think this is an ISTP trait.
my Ni says so.

why?
even INTP or any other tyoe would hate themselves for saying stupid things.
but if you take the two types ISTP and INTP, an INTP would be least likely of those two types to hate themselves for saying stupid things.
they would analyze it or whatever.

whereas an ISTP would rather hate themselves for it. and i think this is a significant difference btw ESTPs and ISTPs. ESTPs would deny ANY WRONG DOING to others and even to themselves. whereas ISTP would be a bit more introspective enough to reflect on what they did and think a lot abt it. and alas feel guilty abt it.

INTPs on the other hand would not feel guilty(yes they would but not as much as ISTPs would). since they are so damm awesome they would look at it in the most rational way possible without feeling very guilty abt it.

and would cleverly AVOID such situations again.

 

[ChocolateMoose123]

^ I disagree.

I don't know why but I think it's much easier for ISTP to not care what others think. The reason, I think, is because to an ISTP "What is - is." I find they don't worry about a lot of what can't be observed directly or at that moment. INTP's view is "What is - is...Why is it? How did it become?" This natural curiosity makes us want to know and care what other people think because it's how we gather information.

When you were beating yourself up about saying the 'wrong" thing, was this looping through your head? - "Damn. I could have said 10+ other things that would have been better and perhaps some of those things could have been the complete opposite of what I did say and it still would have been true"

If so...welcome to the snark side. I'd say you're INTP. If not...welcome to the dark side. I'd say you're ISTP.

 

[NewEra]

It depends on whether you use SeNi more or NeSi more.

 

[thisGuy]

do you ever give off the aura of eggheadedness without care for much else? thats intp

 

[alcea rosea]

What about your secondary function:
Ne (INTP) or Se (ISTP)?

Ne: Interpreting situations and relationships; picking up meanings and interconnections; being drawn to change "what is " for "what could possibly be"; noticing what is not said and threads of meaning emerging across multiple contexts

Se: Experiencing the immediate context; noticing changes and opportunied for action; being drawn to act on the physical world; accumulating experiences; scanning for visible reactions and relevant data; recognizing "what is"