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    ⒺⓉⒷ Eric B's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by nebbykoo View Post
    I think the idea that your shadow is your opposite type is a very symmetrical theory, but one that just doesn't really work in reality. I see this as a theoretical extreme, and one that most people don't reach when they are feeling stressed. Also, it invites what is always just below the surface of all typological discussions: stereotypes and prejudice. IN REALITY, ESTJ's are not the embodiment of callousness and insesitivity, and INFP's aren't 'emo' whatever the feck that means. yet when someone is stressed, they allegedly 'turn into' their shadow, thereby dredging to the surface everything they have determined they don't like about themselves, and have given to the shadow. this is perfect 'cart before the horse' thinking, since it attributes anything negative to 'the other' even if the opposite preference might in fact be good for us in many ways. So the shadow functions are demonized simply because they are opposite, without any critical thinking.
    The answer to that is that a more advanced version of the theory says that the "shadow" is not the opposite type (in all four letters), but rather the one that has all of your functions' attitudes reversed. (thus sharing none of the four primary function attitudes). This would be the one with the same two middle letters. Or, the reverse of that, which is the one with the same two outer letters. So for INFP/ESTJ, it is ENFJ or ISTP.

    The four letter opposite types are still ego-compatible, ultimately, so a type with your inferior and tertiary as dominant and auxilary is not really your shadow. Thos areas are likely coming into consciousness in a mature adult. It's the "other four" (below the inferior) that are totally unconscious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric B View Post
    The answer to that is that a more advanced version of the theory says that the "shadow" is not the opposite type (in all four letters), but rather the one that has all of your functions' attitudes reversed. (thus sharing none of the four primary function attitudes). This would be the one with the same two middle letters. Or, the reverse of that, which is the one with the same two outer letters. So for INFP/ESTJ, it is ENFJ or ISTP.

    The four letter opposite types are still ego-compatible, ultimately, so a type with your inferior and tertiary as dominant and auxilary is not really your shadow. Thos areas are likely coming into consciousness in a mature adult. It's the "other four" (below the inferior) that are totally unconscious.
    Hey, EricB!!!

    OK, so "simpleton version" of "shadow typing" =

    TYPE->SHADOW
    -----------------
    ESTP / INFJ
    INFJ / ESTP

    AND "advanced version" of "shadow typing" =

    TYPE->SHADOW
    ----------------
    ESTP / ISTJ
    INFJ / ENFP

    Interesting stuff, thank you for condensing many pages of reading into a heurisitc. Your ADHD brethren salute you.
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