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    Help me type my step-dad...

    At first I pegged him as ISFP since he is a talented, moody artist. Then I thought he was INFP because of his very abstract speech.

    Now I'm on the fence. He is definitely dominant Fi, little question of that.

    Here's why I think he could have auxiliary Ne:
    - Is a cartoonist / illustrator and creates original characters straight from his imagination. When he shows you his drawings, he will also tell you about a full back story & personality he has created for them, even though it's just a drawing for a t-shirt.
    - Doesn't like to draw realistically. Prefers cartoons & is much better at them.
    - Even though he is an artist, he has a poor sense of color. He'll often ask my ISFJ mom what color to use in a drawing. He has a very poor style of dress & horrible taste in furniture. However, he recognizes when other people do these things well, such as my mom, and the way things look is important to him.
    - Has the INFP verbal diarrhea. Like, what the hell is he talking about 90% of the time? His speech is not linear at all and it's hard to connect the dots to figure out what he's getting at.
    -Very, very, very odd sense of humor that makes zero sense to most people. My ISFJ mom gets a kick out of it, but I don't think she is laughing with him, just at him. Scary to say, I can make sense of him more than my mom....
    - Is a lot more moralistic than I imagine an SP to be. Can get so enraged over moral issues he can barely talk.

    Here's why I think he could have auxiliary Se:
    - Has exceptional drawing skills. Can really crank out the drawings.
    - Not intellectually inclined like most INFPs seem to be. Does not read much, and when he does, he reads biographies, self help books, and historical non-fiction. Has little interest in theory or the abstract. Thinks poetry is "funny".
    - Does not write well at all. Says he is not capable of writing a story (people have told him he should do children's books), even though he creates such detailed characters.
    - Loves history, and watches the history channel a lot
    - Would much rather watch a kung-fu movie than anything "deep". Likes silly comedies & slapstick humor.
    - Even though he is quiet and reserved, people usually find him warm & friendly (especially animals & children). That seems more ISFP than INFP to me. INFPs often mistakenly come off as aloof.
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    INFPs can also be distinguished by an interest in harmony and balance -- vocally. They'll use the words often. ISFPs appreciate independence but have no such similar interest.

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    He sounds ISFP to me.
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    I think I would go with ISFP. I can relate to a lot of the list. Stretching it a bit but, ISFP with SFJ seems quite common. I'm married to an ISFJ and there are a few ISFP here with SFJ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OrangeAppled View Post
    Here's why I think he could have :
    - Thinks poetry is "funny".
    - Does not write well at all. Says he is not capable of writing a story (people have told him he should do children's books), even though he creates such detailed characters.
    How are these indicators of "auxiliary Se"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffster View Post
    How are these indicators of "auxiliary Se"?
    Poetry and writing are not really here-and-now practical things...I suppose it's showing a possible lack of Ne for him, which then leaves Se.
    I realize INFPs don't have a monopoly on poetry or writing, but since I am trying to examine what he is, I feel that point generally supported S over N.
    Just as I felt poor sense of color may be more N than S, even though personally I, an INFP, have a great sense of color .
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    Quote Originally Posted by htb View Post
    INFPs can also be distinguished by an interest in harmony and balance -- vocally. They'll use the words often. ISFPs appreciate independence but have no such similar interest.
    He's a quiet guy. I don't think I've ever heard him talk about "harmony".
    I might add he has been religious on and off throughout his life. Right now he is on. When he is on, he is very into it.

    I think I'm leaning towards ISFP again for him too. I actually relate to him in a lot of ways, and I guess that's why I thought INFP for a bit.


    Quote Originally Posted by wolfy View Post
    I think I would go with ISFP. I can relate to a lot of the list. Stretching it a bit but, ISFP with SFJ seems quite common. I'm married to an ISFJ and there are a few ISFP here with SFJ.
    Their marriage has been very, very rocky, with different communication styles a big part of it. I also thought that maybe it was an N/S conflict, but it may be more of a Fe/Fi thing. It may also be cultural...he comes from an Asian/Island culture and my mom has a Latin background.
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    The abstract speech pattern throws a spanner in the works. The behaviour seems ISFP but the thinking INFP. Maybe you could get a clear distinction by looking at the tertiary function?

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    Sounds like a pretty sure INFP, based on the information given.

    Ns can learn artistry to a very high degree by basically forming a big picture of the whole thing and then imitating the natural abilities of their S counterparts. There are lots of ways to learn to be good at anything; you can take a variety of perspectives and still get there.

    He has a couple of odd S traits, but who doesn't? The description you've given is overwhelmingly INFP, so as long as you've represented both sides fairly that'd be my guess.
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    ^ Yeah, wolfy, that's where I keep getting stuck. His way of talking can be out there. Although maybe it is because he is more physically oriented...maybe an INFP would actually be more articulate.

    I'm not good at spotting tertiary functions in other people.
    I see obvious signs of Si in myself, but I don't see it in him. I don't particularly see evidence of Ni either though.
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