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    Very hard to say as there isn't enough definitive information but don't rule out INFJ... I see a lot that looks like a young INFJ. (Especially one that knows she has been labelled as "weird", if that's the case.)

    Young INFJs can be very contrary and concerned with standing out from the crowd in their own quiet way, especially if they experience some kind of censure/opposition from others. Can also be very disdainful about the mainstream and what is popular which could account for some of her actions. Are you a close friend or one of her confidants? It doesn't sound like it, if not it could be very hard for you to find out her true motivations.

    e.g. Ditching friends who criticized her boyfriend isn't necessarily about not valuing friendships, it could be about sticking up for her boyfriend above all others. I have aggressively put friends right back in their place when they harped on and on about a boyfriend's idiosyncrasies.

    Silent overall but then can't shut up if someone starts talking to her? Check.

    Sometimes dressing outrageously? Check!

    I could go on down the list - wearing the tux to the prom (I was quietly controversial at my prom too, lol), the blog thing, the attitude to problem solving, being hyper when she gets attention, etc. More information needed but that entire list could easily be the behavior of a young INFJ.

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    Would it be a good idea if I interviewed her? Maybe she'd be more typeable then. Well, I guess she wouldn't mind it, since she likes attention.
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    I went with S because she seems to have a very unhealthy Si fueling her Te. Her actions are not those of an strong NF at all. Definatly not a healthy one. And I'd say her actions reflect her underdevelopped Si/Te instead.

    Maybe she's an NF but has some identity problems and rebelliously leans towards using ST but doesn't have the maturity to use them properly. Which is the cause of her unhealthyness?

    Either way, I get a pretty strong immature Si feeling when reading the OP's post and not Ni. Ni wouldn't be able to keep at those unhealthy levels without causing a breakdown. Whilest Si has more potential to remain unhealthy, ones fueled by unhealthy misjudged past experiences?

    I'm not an expert by the way, but felt like I needed to explain why I went ST, albeit an unhealthy one. :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint Kar View Post
    Would it be a good idea if I interviewed her? Maybe she'd be more typeable then. Well, I guess she wouldn't mind it, since she likes attention.
    You could have her take the test. :P
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    ^Yes! Test!

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    My vote is INFP. INFJs generally are only too pleased to tell you what's going on if you sincerely want to know. INFPs seem more likely to me to do something attention getting and then not want to talk about it more when asked why. They are also more likely to talk too much or too little. I would think that an INFJ would be afraid enough of rejection that even if they wanted to do those things, they wouldn't actually go through with it. Much of what you describe sounds Nish to me rather than S like.

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    Well, I just had a talk with her and she turned out be nicer than I thought, actually! Maybe she just appears cold because she doesn't talk that much. Well, here are a few things she told me:

    - According to her, her life is pretty boring. In her spare time, she tries to kill time by drawing, writing and shopping. She showed me a story she wrote, and it was quite funny. She wasn't satisfied with the end of the Harry Potter series that J.K. Rownling wrote, so she wrote a better one herself. I only read the first few pages, where Harry Potter woke up next to Voldemort (who was dressed up like a blond woman) after a wild night of partying. The story was 50 pages long. The girl explained she was bored.
    - She and her boyfriend were friends first. Her boyfriend had another girlfriend back then, and when that girlfriend cheated, this weird girl started dating him. That was almost two years ago. She said that they spend between 2 and 4 hours a day together, except for in the weekends, when they usually spend the whole day together. She's concerned that that isn't enough to guarantee a good future together, so she decided to work a little less now.
    - When I asked what the reason was that she loved him so much, she said that the world would be boring without him. Apparently she's struggling against boredom. She also said that he gave her confidence, because before they were dating, she always thought she was fat and ugly (she's actually kind of handsome and her weight is pretty average, so I don't know why she would be thinking that).
    - She told me that when she was younger, she used to fall in love with a lot of guys. Sometimes even with four guys at once, at least, that was what she thought. She used to pick the guys she fell in love with (WTF?!) by watching their hair color. If it wasn't brown or black, you could forget her. Her current boyfriend is blond. She's very ashamed of her past.
    - She hates her colleagues, because they're always talking about how many people they had slept with the past few days. She thinks they're shallow and that they're probably lying about it, so the others would think they're cool. She pretends to ignore them.
    - She hates people who give in to social pressure anyway. She thinks they're weak.
    - Her Pacmandrawing seemed to mean that the fact that we're getting more and more surrounded by computers frightens her. She's afraid of some kind of 1984-scenario, which could be caused by mobile phones, MySpace, Twitter and stuff like that.
    - When I asked her why she told me these things and why she didn't tell other people, she said that she thinks she can trust me. (Yeah, people always tell me their secrets. That's getting lame!)
    - Then she started talking about her boyfriend again. It was his fathers birthday today and he organized him a surprise party. This girl is going to help, because she says she loves his family as well. She has befriended her boyfriends little sister as well. The only thing she hates about his family is that they're so sporty, and she doesn't like sports at all. But her own family did have problems with her boyfriend for a while, but that was "because they complain about everything!"
    - She actually doesn't like her own family. She always felt like the black sheep there. Reasons why she doesn't like her family: they're "controllfreaks", they only like "normal people, and by that they mean those photoshopped tanned models you find in the magazines", they're "always trying to make me eat more and more and believe me, they can't cook, and when I'm finished they're starting to complain that I'm obese and all!" and they "always spend they're money on things that don't matter at all, and then they even start talking about it like its a GOOD think? O my gosh, they're so STUPID!!!".

    And then our class was over and by that our conversation was ended. Things I've learned:
    - She's struggling against boredom, but meanwhile she seems to be searching safety which she thinks she can find best with her boyfriend and his family.
    - She used to be very insecure, but she has overcome it and her arrogant appearance might be a result of that. Maybe that's also the reason why she came to the party dressed up like a man.
    - She probably doesn't talk to people because she doesn't trust them or because she thinks they're just not worth it.
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    She could be an ISFP too you know,... Did you ever think that maybe she just enjoys getting a rise out of people?... Anyways... Let sleeping dogs lie.
    ... They say that knowledge is free, and to truly acquire wisdom always comes with a price... Well then,... That will be $10, please!

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    Very interesting. Will you keep us posted about further conversations?

    I think she's still insecure, but has just chosen a different way of manifesting it. When a person is truly comfortable with themselves and others, they don't come off as arrogant or mousy, nor do they have a need to attract attention to themselves because they know they can get it legitimately. Also when you are secure, there is more of an outward focus towards people. She's had bad stuff happen and so doesn't trust people and doesn't feel much in common with the majority of them.

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    From the update I feel more positive on my first assesment about her being S.

    I'll stick with ISTJ. :P
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