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    You sound like you're just going through an identity crisis. Whenever I get introspective like that, I can come off quite F like because I lose the ability to be objective about my feelings/desires. I end up confusing myself. But I always know the truth deep down and snap out of it a few days later.

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    I think it's safe to assume that you're a guy, right? Yeah, male ENFPs can definitely pass for ENTP, and often ENTJ, too.

    Quote Originally Posted by King-Of-Despair View Post
    You could look at that in two ways I think,
    Definitely a Ne trait

    Sorry if I'm opposing every conclusion that everyone makes, it's kind of a natural reaction I guess , your help is actually valuable to me .
    yeah we tend to apologize a lot for stuff that we don't really need to apologize for

    Rejecting everything is a rather ENFP thing to do though isn't it? "They are interested in new ideas on principle, but ultimately discard most of them for one reason or another." But ENTPs are debaters, is this how most of them debate?
    On another forum, I'm having a discussion about my Enneagram type and questioning most of the conclusions that others make, just like you are here. One person was pretty supportive of 3w2, where I thought 6w5.. and after some "rigorous testing" of his conclusions with portions of the 6 that fit me, I extensively read up on the 3 and saw where it could very well fit me.

    (But then, just like MBTI, I can see where a lot of types fit me.)

    If your mode of operation is anything like mine, we might be the same type.


    Ultimately, this typing business is up to you.. just use us as a sounding board for what you might be thinking.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chloee View Post
    All NFs long for knowing identity???
    I fail to see where I said "all." It's a typical trait of Kiersey's description of the NF's underlying motivations.

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    xNFP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jenocyde View Post
    You sound like you're just going through an identity crisis. Whenever I get introspective like that, I can come off quite F like because I lose the ability to be objective about my feelings/desires. I end up confusing myself. But I always know the truth deep down and snap out of it a few days later.
    I'll probably figure that out after doing it a few times, for now, I don't quite believe you, lol. I'm having an identity crisis and I'm in denial? Talk about two birds with one stone . I'm enjoying the thinking/reflecting thing though, so I'll probably keep doing it... nope, changed my mind... or did I , okay, I'm going bonkers now, I'll just stop typing.

    ok, I'm changing my mind again, you could definitely be right here, as soon as I start to consider that maybe I'm tricking myself everything becomes kind of circular.

    Quote Originally Posted by greed View Post
    I think it's safe to assume that you're a guy, right? Yeah, male ENFPs can definitely pass for ENTP, and often ENTJ, too.



    Definitely a Ne trait



    yeah we tend to apologize a lot for stuff that we don't really need to apologize for



    On another forum, I'm having a discussion about my Enneagram type and questioning most of the conclusions that others make, just like you are here. One person was pretty supportive of 3w2, where I thought 6w5.. and after some "rigorous testing" of his conclusions with portions of the 6 that fit me, I extensively read up on the 3 and saw where it could very well fit me.

    (But then, just like MBTI, I can see where a lot of types fit me.)

    If your mode of operation is anything like mine, we might be the same type.


    Ultimately, this typing business is up to you.. just use us as a sounding board for what you might be thinking.



    I fail to see where I said "all." It's a typical trait of Kiersey's description of the NF's underlying motivations.
    It's good to know that I'm not pissing everyone off in doing this , I've come up with a few good ways to type myself, I almost posted them before, but accidentally deleted it in a flurry of cutting and pasting things
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beat View Post
    xNFP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by King-Of-Despair View Post
    ISFJ
    lol. I'm not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by King-Of-Despair View Post
    I like to review my type frequently, I feel like discussing myself atm too, so I'll fire away ... I'm going to scribble all over this with crayonz... be very very afraid...
    Are you my twin??? You sound exactly like me!!!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by jenocyde View Post
    Yes, but if you subscribe to the theory of function order, you are no longer speaking of just Ti vs Fi, but also Fe vs Te...

    When someone meets you in a business setting, would they describe you as a hard ass? A lot of ENFPs I meet in work seem like hard, organized people but when you get to know them they are just a bunch of softies.

    When people meet me, they think I am so sweet and nice and observant. When they get to know me, they realize that I am a pit bull in a skirt. With killer heels.
    Yes, this would describe me - I'm a hard, organized, professional person at work, and quiet and reserved in real life except when my silly switch is on, in which case I'm a total crazy NUT!

    Quote Originally Posted by jenocyde View Post
    When I am in NeFe mode with strangers, I am very aware and observant of people. I rush to hold doors for people with packages, I always ask if people need water/coffee before I start my presentation. I am charmingly disarming. But I can't maintain that level of observation and/or caring for a long time, it exhausts me. After spells of NeFe, I must withdraw and recharge and can behave quite introverted.

    When I am in NeTi mode with friends (debating, learning, studying, theorizing, arguing) I can go for days and never feel tired because there is no pulling of emotion. Pulling up emotion exhausts me.
    HELLZ YEAH: At work, I have to be NeFe all the time - it's almost required as a teacher. The Ne energizes me, and the Fe drains me. Overall, it's very rewarding work, but I'm knocked out when I come home and I couldn't be bothered being Fe in my free time because I have to do that SO MUCH at work....

    Quote Originally Posted by jenocyde View Post
    Yes, yes. People always say that I am such a sweet girl. And I am, but only as an afterthought - if there is not an important matter in front of me. I totally ignore the human factor when I am in NeTi mode - I couldn't care less about how anyone feels about anything, just get the fucking job done. If you don't like me, you can cry later - at home, please.

    In NeFe, like at parties with a bunch of strangers, I can get as exhausted as an INTP at the end of the night because I have to be "on". I love it, but it's tiring. In NeTi, I am also "on" with my friends/colleagues, but it is much more of a natural state and therefore energizing.
    HAHAHAHA, I love it, same as me, except it is NeFi!!!!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by jenocyde View Post
    And when I am in a really bad mood and have had no rest, I can become a nasty TiFe monster, which no one likes, not even me. While ENFPs have their own brand of nasty: the FiTe. *shudder*
    Hellz yeah!!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Chloee View Post
    All NFs long for knowing identity???
    Hmm, can't say all, but I sure do. And I long to be true to myself and develop and grow. But that's just me.

    If you can relate to a lot of what jenocyde said, you can probably narrow it down to EN?P. But I do not know if I can help you any more than that...I'm not an expert.
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    Quote Originally Posted by King-Of-Despair View Post
    Was there anything back there that I should be ashamed of?
    I meant it less in a context of shame and more in one of... mh... a trait or a behavior one sees as an obstacle to what one wants. To give you an example, many years ago I was an ENFP. I absolutely identified with the profile, and also with the flaws. I saw some flaws (like inconsistency and unreliability) as an obstacle to my success and ultimate happiness (although they generally provided an immediate satisfaction). Some would use their natural skills and talents to work on their (perceived) flaws. I thought (or felt) that traits I considered underdeveloped (keeping in mind I see most opposites - P/J, N/S, etc. - as all present, just some are more at home and others visit as guests). Well, I decided to use my "guests" to help my local residents manage. Of course, this may not be something that would seem logical to you or apply to you!

    Quote Originally Posted by King-Of-Despair View Post
    That ENFP profile did seem to fit rather well, and I use font colours when bold doesn't cut it, not because I like the colours or something, just so you know. hmmm, I might read up on whole heap of profiles and see which types like to "keep people on their toes". Surely I've spouted enough information about to be typed, maybe I'll be able to connect some of that childhood stuff up to an actual type

    [add]: Now that I think about it a bit more, the main reason I used colours when commenting on what I said was because Bold wouldn't stand out enough for other people to read it. Surely that's connected to Fi versus Fe? The problem is, I can't work out if I care because I'm sympathizing, or empathizing? (my understanding is that Fi= empathy, Fe=sympathy.) I would consider my motive to be more sympathetic in any case, but what if I'm subconsciously empathizing so fast that I don't notice it?
    I can understand... One's true motivations are sometimes hard to find/identify...

    I actually think the "keeping people on their toes" thing is pretty cool. And I like the color changes.

    Personally, I've adopted a pretty casual approach to my own type because that way, it explains why I've learnt to integrate seemingly opposite functions, yet feel as much comfortable with one as the other. But I did that because that was the way to find peace of mind about it and felt authentic. And being ok if in ten years I think "oh no, I was wrong back then" because right now it feels and seems right...

    I'm just sharing that because I know what it's like to want to know.
    I'm a work in progress.
    Different approaches, tastes, opinions, outlooks, personalities do not invalidate each other: they make the world more interesting.
    I have foot-in-mouth disease.

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    I've been seriously trying to imitate ENTJs lately, and I've been wondering just how INFP I really am. The actual type is a bit of a mystery to me tbh, I associate it with the ultimate in feeling types, but for a male INFP, they are somewhat forced into developing other functions (i think). The strangest thing is, when I psyched myself up enough into being an ENTJ, I could FEEL the type, I felt self loathing (for being so slack), I have almost litterally transited to the type, the only thing I haven't done yet is lead anyone, although I have a sudden thirst for power. Would any other type be so capable of molding themselves? Fi is meant to be a function that understands others, and even in the descriptions, it is made out to be hard to understand. One other thing I noticed while being ENTJ-like, is that I resort to emotional manipulation when I seek power, there's a chance that all of that stuff is thought out logically with Ti or something, but would Ti even consider emotional manipulation? I could just be a 9w8 INFP, the 8 gives me some kind of thirst for power etc. I have also noticed that I am somewhat Idealistic... which I mistook for nothing but optimism . Also, the ENTJ like behavior I am exerting may just be the ESTJ like behavior, as I am under what you could easily call 'a lot of stress'. Okay, and also, my lack of Fi/Ti could simply be because of the INFPness. They are considered reserved when it comes to feelings, they don't dispose of them towards just anyone, so all you can see in this forum is pure Ne. Most people think I am an ENFP, but there really isn't all that much there to say that I'm an E. Beat even said XNFP, my behavior isn't ENFP, that is for sure, Amar has proved this, I fake other types in a mischievous/entertaining/educating fashion. An ENFP wouldn't do this, that leaves either INFP or ENTP (unless INFP wouldn't do it either). Can an ENTP be more idealist in preference to realistic?
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    Ok, my confusion (if it could be called that) is finally done with, I'm definitely not an F, and I was rejected by the INTPs , I don't think I have their ability to concentrate so well, so I can only really be ENTP, my latest test was XNXP (although it was a SLOAN test), I can actually give some logical, but shaky arguments for my ENTPness, but it's not worth it, not at all, the entire MBTI theory seems too ghastly to actually work with. I think I get obsessed when I don't win, I'm not even going to try to put that into a category
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