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    P, I believe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cloud View Post
    If you lack regard for rules , does that make you a J or P? Because I know that both he and I hates rules and procedures.
    I would say that P's don't like rules.

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    ENTP. Clear cut case.

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    xNTJs aren't particularly fond of rules.
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    I think it depends on what kind of rules. I would wager to say that most NTs of any sort don't like being forced to follow external rules, but there are some that like to make and enforce rules upon others.

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    My friend is also an extremely self-indulgent person. Is this a J trait?
    I like to enforce rules on others also if it helps reaching wa goal, but onluy when necessary.
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    Um, are you sure you are not a J? I feel like a unicorn dies if I ever have to give a direct order.

    And self-indulgent could be a J trait, I don't know. But it sure as hell sounds like me. I think self-indulgence is a big part of the procrastination process for entps, but I hate to speak for all of us. I just know what I'm like. And I am very self-indulgent.

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    Well, no. Because I usually procrastinate for at least half a day before I sweriously get to work. And getting to work is one of the lowest of my priorirites.

    Js work on self-discipline right? I don't think they seriously indulge themselves.
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    Disregarding rules is not a P/J attribute, I don't think, but a cooperative/utilitarian one. So your friend is most definitely one of the utilitarian types, so an SP or an NT. Your description did strike me as quite P, and probably quite extraverted. That lovely quote about needing to change the pear in order to experience makes me say T. So that leaves us with ESTP or ENTP. I'd hazard to say ENTP, as he seems more like the nutty professor type than the selling ice to eskimos type

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    why P but not J?

    He is also very concerned with social injustice. But I think he's a thinker because he reads alot.
    The fear of poverty turns people into slaves of money.

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