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    I don't think your interest in history has anything to do with Ni vs Si dominant. In fact I think interest in general is a poor way to type.

    Perhaps you should focus more on your thought patterns. How do you organize your thoughts? Si tends to be quite systematic... emphasis on chronological sequencing of events. Ni goes more by "relationships". Object has this set of properties and other things that are similar gets lumped together in one thought. Time is but one variable... which is often neglected.
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    Quote Originally Posted by invaderzim View Post
    Easiest way to tell::
    Do you notice things around you?
    Yes and no. One example would be one incident when I was supposed to meet some friends at the movie theater. I was so deep in contemplation that I walked right past them. They literally had to shout at me before I noticed them. This happens quite frequently whenever I'm deep in thought about something.


    Example:
    If some one said "Did you see her dress?" and you were like ?
    That would mean you're Ni dom.
    Or if some one was relying on you to give a physical description of a person or enviroment at a crime scene and you were like ?
    That would mean you're Ni dom
    Yes actually this happens quite alot. When I was injured at work a few days ago I had to fill out reports describing what happened. It was real torture figuring out what to write and giving descriptions in details, even though the incident happened only a few hours before.

    In fact I constantly have this problem at work; where they expect me to pay attention to precise details. Sometimes I overly focus on them, but more often I'm largely oblivious to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nightning View Post
    I don't think your interest in history has anything to do with Ni vs Si dominant. In fact I think interest in general is a poor way to type.

    Perhaps you should focus more on your thought patterns. How do you organize your thoughts? Si tends to be quite systematic... emphasis on chronological sequencing of events. Ni goes more by "relationships". Object has this set of properties and other things that are similar gets lumped together in one thought. Time is but one variable... which is often neglected.
    By this description I'm definately Ni. I have a hard time, even when dealing with historical events, in determining exact chronology of events. I literally have to put dates next to my journal entries in order to keep better track of this - as one example.

    I've pretty much lost my ability to remember dates, I always need to look them up. That's why ancient history is a pain for me. Only from the late 18th century onwards do I have any real knowledge of dates. Before that time, it's only approximate.

    I certainly love history, but I do notice my approach to it is very different to many other history buffs - especially more Sensor type ones. I know from personal experience. They can rant off all sorts of precise detailed facts about historical events that literally make my head spin.

    My approach to history is more "philosophical" for lack of a better term. I'm more interested in discussing the meaning behind various events and people, not just what happened. For me, understanding history(or even facts in general) is actually more important than merely knowing it.

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    In fact I constantly have this problem at work; where they expect me to pay attention to precise details. Sometimes I overly focus on them, but more often I'm largely oblivious to them.
    I do stuff like this too. I figure if i've seen it once, i've seen it hundred times. But then I end up missing stuff.

    And not being able to remember dates seems about right because its like data. Your mind probably works better with concepts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by invaderzim View Post
    And not being able to remember dates seems about right because its like data. Your mind probably works better with concepts.
    Yes that sounds about right. On a related note, when reading biographies; I'm far more interested in reading about what kind of person they were as opposed to merely what they did. I'm always disappointed in biographies that don't give good give descriptions of the person's character. :steam:

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    Quote Originally Posted by professor goodstain View Post
    I'm no INFJ. Nor JFK either. However, basing this only off experiencing one true to core INFJ in real life (my brother), you're a bit off with this. INFJ are the least vengeful. They come off that way over and over again because of our behavior around them, in contrast with their personality, is repetitious (over and over again). Like we didn't learn anything from the last experience. Making them feel like a mystery. They announce what they do for others by the way we finally realize our stupidity around them. It's us who announce what they've done for us to ourselves. When we finally accept our redundancy. Until then, somewhere deep in our subconscious, those voices will keep saying 'INFJs are vengeful because they announce what they do for others'
    No.

    INFJs can be very vengeful. I've known them to actually exact the revenge, too... I get along well with INFJs and know several. They have told me their revenge fantasies personally, and I've seen a couple played out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maliafee View Post
    No.

    INFJs can be very vengeful. I've known them to actually exact the revenge, too... I get along well with INFJs and know several. They have told me their revenge fantasies personally, and I've seen a couple played out.
    Then why still hang out with'em?
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    Quote Originally Posted by maliafee View Post
    No.

    INFJs can be very vengeful. I've known them to actually exact the revenge, too... I get along well with INFJs and know several. They have told me their revenge fantasies personally, and I've seen a couple played out.
    Seriously? I can't relate to this at all. Seems extremely immature.
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    Seriously? Why hang out with them? I love them. They're so interesting and enjoyable. They really care. I'm not stating a terribly negative fact about them; it's just something that happens. If you don't identify with this personally, I guess you're really, really special.

    P.S. I don't have to worry about them being vengeful with me because they love me too much. I never make 'em mad.

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    I'll venture a thought or two -- I think you study history to learn about people and their motivations and how they play out. It is an INFJ who is likely to have visions of human events past, present, or future/

    I think a strong J could easily account for your well-constructed, definite viewpoint. You have a perfect vision of how things could be if we all did our best.

    And I think the fact that you surprise people who thought they knew you well is textbook INFJ.
    People who have known an INFJ for years may find sides emerging which come as a surprise.


    Also, INFJ's personality comes out stronger in writing than otherwise. We're more apt to argue points on a forum than in person, unless we find someone extremely like-minded, which is rare.

    So I don't see the S, personally.

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