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    My esfp sister and I both love books. She is definitely more classically read than I am.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nanook View Post
    i think its more like
    awareness for various facts and details (like ear-rings)
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    awareness for more abstract things (i.e. a poetic or satirical notion, situational humor) and ignorance about details
    That makes sense to me. My husband is an INTJ (total opposite!) and the other day we went to the gym and there was this fake plant and he goes, "Woah look they just got a new decoration." and I was like, "That's been there for about 6 months." hahah! So when that happened I was thinking about how I had heard somewhere that that plays into the types but I couldn't remember exactly how.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nanook View Post
    when i read a personal blog of an enfp there is constant idiosyncratic ranting, based on empirical everyday examples. there is a lot descriptive awareness for details (occurrences, stories), but only when they can be interpreted as being representational (symbolical) for a hidden oddity (scheme) in human behavior.

    i have not yet read an esfp blog. i would imagine, that they talk more descriptive about who relates to whom in what way, or who did something nasty, in their personal life. or how hot that guy is, she met yesterday. plausible?
    I have a blog! Ok I am going to go through the posts and tell you what kinds of things I talk about and you tell me if you think it's more ESFP or ENFP. Ok my first post says that I want everyone to tell me which emotion they think I would rather feel if I had to choose. The second post is me explaining what my fashion style is if I had to describe it. The third post is an excerpt of a funny conversation I had with someone where I wasn't listening to them and agreed to something funny. The fourth post lists all of the misinformation I got about U.S. history in school and they are numbered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lemons View Post
    Which out of these two sound more like you?

    Live in the now. Keen to your senses. You tend to get what's happening around you and what's about to come.

    Seeing from more than one perspective. Looks for commonalities. Can be lost in your ideas when its time to move along.

    I do live in the now but I am always fantasizing about the future. I daydream about it all day. I have no idea if I am keen to my senses because I'm not sure what that means. I definitely have really high intuition and am constantly analyze how other people feel and what their real motives are behind things. I am right most of the time. There is this one ISFJ that I am always wrong about though.

    I think I can see from more than one perspective all right. I don't really know if I look for commonalities. I'm not sure about getting lost in my ideas when it is time to move along. I have a lot of trouble switching from one task to another. I usually like to get obsessed with one thing until a burn out and then I usually don't finish it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Introverted-esfp View Post
    I guess more or less. However i think it has more to do with The Se/Fi balance, an ESFP who is more oriented towards ideas and uses FI for things, may seem like an ENFP.

    So a determining question. What kind of books do you read?, are you usually indulged in such an activity, or do you prefer physical things.
    I like to read books that aren't a giant wall of text and aren't full of flowery prose. I just want the author to get the point and give me some real life solution to whatever I am looking for. I like to read the politically incorrect guide to... books or the for dummies books. Lots of fashion and beauty guides with pictures and clear, specific demonstrations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KarenParker View Post
    I like to read books that aren't a giant wall of text and aren't full of flowery prose. I just want the author to get the point and give me some real life solution to whatever I am looking for. I like to read the politically incorrect guide to... books or the for dummies books. Lots of fashion and beauty guides with pictures and clear, specific demonstrations.
    Hahahahaha, only an ESFP with temper would be so blunt.

    Generalized ESFP definitly, i could be wrong though, but it is highly unlikely.
    "Where can you flee? What road will you use to escape us? Our horses are swift, our arrows sharp, our swords like thunderbolts, our hearts as hard as the mountains, our soldiers as numerous as the sand. Fortresses will not detain us, nor arms stop us. Your prayers to God will not avail against us. We are not moved by tears nor touched by lamentations."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nanook View Post
    i can't tell ...
    Quote Originally Posted by Karen parker View Post
    I like to read books that aren't a giant wall of text and aren't full of flowery prose. I just want the author to get the point and give me some real life solution to whatever I am looking for. I like to read the politically incorrect guide to... books or the for dummies books.Lots of fashion and beauty guides with pictures and clear, specific demonstrations...
    Salient enough my german friend?.
    "Where can you flee? What road will you use to escape us? Our horses are swift, our arrows sharp, our swords like thunderbolts, our hearts as hard as the mountains, our soldiers as numerous as the sand. Fortresses will not detain us, nor arms stop us. Your prayers to God will not avail against us. We are not moved by tears nor touched by lamentations."

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    Quote Originally Posted by KarenParker View Post
    I do live in the now but I am always fantasizing about the future. I daydream about it all day. I have no idea if I am keen to my senses because I'm not sure what that means. I definitely have really high intuition and am constantly analyze how other people feel and what their real motives are behind things. I am right most of the time. There is this one ISFJ that I am always wrong about though.
    It's silly that people think S types don't fantasize or think about the future. I'll stop myself before I rant up your threadz about it.

    People often mistake what "intuition" is, since we'll all get them--- by way of our perceptions. What needs to be discerned is whether or not, by MBTI standards, that they're Intuitive or Sensory perceptions.

    I think I can see from more than one perspective all right. I don't really know if I look for commonalities. I'm not sure about getting lost in my ideas when it is time to move along. I have a lot of trouble switching from one task to another. I usually like to get obsessed with one thing until a burn out and then I usually don't finish it.
    I think Se Doms have more focus than Ne Doms, especially towards tasks they've set their eyes on. Task is to do. They've also got tons of physical energy, whether or not they do anything about it but they may become restless otherwise. I could speak wonders of the energy of my ESTP best friend or ESFP sister... but just for all of humanity (or my sake qq) allow them to sleep enough so they aren't cranky (esp. the ESTP and never try to wake her, even when she's asked you to. She might blow up at you before realising)...

    When they're not focusing, Se Doms might look and be oblivious but they're still always taking in Sensory information, just no longer thinking to act on or be aware of them, though they can remember later if they try to recall and it's not too far from immediate memory. ex. My ESFP sis had to watch a movie for her Religion class over a period of three classes. She was bored and slept through every single class and was the only one to get all the questions right on the quiz which partly focused on... details... lol

    I have a blog! Ok I am going to go through the posts and tell you what kinds of things I talk about and you tell me if you think it's more ESFP or ENFP. Ok my first post says that I want everyone to tell me which emotion they think I would rather feel if I had to choose. The second post is me explaining what my fashion style is if I had to describe it. The third post is an excerpt of a funny conversation I had with someone where I wasn't listening to them and agreed to something funny. The fourth post lists all of the misinformation I got about U.S. history in school and they are numbered.
    Se-e here cuz that's what you're trying to get us to do... to Se you. You're describing by giving us an accurate picture of what your blog looks like and means to you instead of describing it in an interpretive manner of what it might look like or mean to you.

    Plus, other stuff that's been pointed out.

    ESFP. Is it clearer for you now?

    Quote Originally Posted by lemons
    Seeing from more than one perspective.
    Se Doms do see from more than one perspective, it's just the manner upon what they're looking at which are patterns that are concrete in nature. They're looking for possibilities and opportunities for action instead possibilities and opportunities for ideas.

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    Relationships have normal ebbs and flows. They do not automatically get better and better when the participants learn more and more about each other. Instead, the participants have to work through the tensions of the relationship (the dialectic) while they learn and group themselves and a parties in a relationships. At times the relationships is very open and sharing. Other time, one or both parties to the relationship need their space, or have other concerns, and the relationship is less open. The theory posits that these cycles occur throughout the life of the relationship as the persons try to balance their needs for privacy and open relationship.
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