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    It may seem odd to be questioning two dichotomies at the same time, but hear me out...

    When I first took the MBTI online I tested INTJ and thought 'yeah, good fit'. I read the other profiles and thought that the xNTP ones were also quite accurate.

    When I took the cognitive processes test, I tested: Ne>Ti=Te>Ni... (I forget the rest). I know that I'm an NT, and I know that I'm intuitive dominant (so that rules out INTP/ENTJ). I also identify more with the Ne descriptions than the Ni ones (I'm much more likely to dream up a new invention or make a play on words than have a flash of insight, although I do have a rich internal world).
    The more I read various profiles, the more uncertain I become. It doesn't really bother me, it'd just be interesting to get some outside ideas.

    Here are some of my (relevant) traits to help:
    • I'm not really an outgoing person, although I am energised by ideas and thoughts, and like to bounce ideas off people who are willing to listen!
    • I like to spend time alone thinking, although I couldn't do this for long, as I would run out of ideas and would need external stimulus to kickstart my thinking.
    • I don't really care for fixed schedules that cannot be changed (i.e. this is the plan and we stick to it), although I don't like completely random events (well we'll just see what happens), I like to have some idea
    • I can't count the times that I've been called a 'mad scientist' what with me constantly rambling about 'out-there' inventions and plans
    • I pick up on interconnections fairly fast and can see how one set of events connects to another
    • I often speak at 100 miles per hour when I'm excited or passionate, and when I finish most people (Ns included!) are left standing there thinking until I explain slower!
    • I have no hesitation in telling people who irritate me or waffle on about nothing to 'get lost' (one of my favourite phrases at the moment is 'ooh, listen... it's the sound of no-one caring'), but I'm perfectly fine in the company of people who don't (and I can pick up on whether they are going to irritate me actively fairly fast), even if I don't really know them.
    • I am highly resistant to doing things 'just because it's tradition' or 'we've always done it this way'. I want a rational reason (even a semblance of one) before I do something. However, I'm not likely to refuse to do something 'just because it's tradition' as this is just as irrational.
    • I don't like your standard party. At all. I feel like a fish out of water (well, more like a fish on the moon). However, give me a large gathering of people sharing ideas about something that I'm interested in (like a science fair or technology show) and you'll have to drag me out!
    • My work area/computer is well-organised, but I'm not obsessive over it.
    • When I write an essay/story/etc. I never really plan unless I have to, I just start writing and see what happens (and 99% of the time it comes out better than when I follow a strict plan)


    OK, so what's the diagnosis (and thanks for taking the time to read my ramblings!).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard0612 View Post
    It may seem odd to be questioning two dichotomies at the same time, but hear me out...

    When I first took the MBTI online I tested INTJ and thought 'yeah, good fit'. I read the other profiles and thought that the xNTP ones were also quite accurate.

    When I took the cognitive processes test, I tested: Ne>Ti=Te>Ni... (I forget the rest). I know that I'm an NT, and I know that I'm intuitive dominant (so that rules out INTP/ENTJ). I also identify more with the Ne descriptions than the Ni ones (I'm much more likely to dream up a new invention or make a play on words than have a flash of insight, although I do have a rich internal world).
    The more I read various profiles, the more uncertain I become. It doesn't really bother me, it'd just be interesting to get some outside ideas.

    Here are some of my (relevant) traits to help:
    [LIST][*]I'm not really an outgoing person, although I am energised by ideas and thoughts, and like to bounce ideas off people who are willing to listen![*]I like to spend time alone thinking, although I couldn't do this for long, as I would run out of ideas and would need external stimulus to kickstart my thinking.[*]I don't really care for fixed schedules that cannot be changed (i.e. this is the plan and we stick to it), although I don't like completely random events (well we'll just see what happens), I like to have some idea[*]I can't count the times that I've been called a 'mad scientist' what with me constantly rambling about 'out-there' inventions and plans[*]I pick up on interconnections fairly fast and can see how one set of events connects to another[*]I often speak at 100 miles per hour when I'm excited or passionate, and when I finish most people (Ns included!) are left standing there thinking until I explain slower![*]I have no hesitation in telling people who irritate me or waffle on about nothing to 'get lost' (one of my favourite phrases at the moment is 'ooh, listen... it's the sound of no-one caring')...
    when i got to the bolded part, i realized i don't care.
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    He's not an INTJ. I skimmed.
    "Create like a god, command like a king, work like a slave."

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    when i got to the bolded part, i realized i don't care.
    Yeah, I know that phrase is harsh, but I'll only use it mockingly or when (I believe) people deserve it. I don't insult people intentionally otherwise, although I'm not really aware sometimes of how I come across (and no, that's not an excuse, it's something to work on).
    Last edited by Richard0612; 12-03-2008 at 03:40 PM. Reason: clarity

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    First glance: ENTP.

    I have a similar "problem". I used to test INTJ, now INTP and the cognitive processes test gave me: Ne Ni Ti Fi Te or something. And yet I just know I'm more INTJ (an argument in itself perhaps).

    You seem to be into experimentation quite a bit, also I'd say that when an INTJ goes outside, it's more of a relief thing than to get their thinking started. A lot of the things you mentioned could go both ways, or could go beyond the INTJ/ENTP deal in fact.

    I'd love to meet one and see what's different.

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    Reading that, you might even be an INTP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Synarch View Post
    He's not an INTJ. I skimmed.
    Seconded. Of course, I read the whole thing.

    Edit: Or thirded, or whatever.

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    The post screamed Ne to me, also E. So ENTP fits.

    And as an INTJ I read the whole thing too. There wasn't much INTJ in it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Economica View Post
    Seconded. Of course, I read the whole thing.
    You would!
    "Create like a god, command like a king, work like a slave."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Economica View Post
    Seconded. Of course, I read the whole thing.

    Edit: Or thirded, or whatever.
    I only glanced.

    But then I read the whole thing just before hitting the post button.

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