User Tag List

First 12345 Last

Results 21 to 30 of 44

Thread: A scarce ESTJ!

  1. #21
    Permabanned
    Join Date
    Jul 2014
    MBTI
    INFP
    Enneagram
    5w4 sx/sp
    Posts
    2,365

    Default

    Welcome. Hope you stick around.
    Likes aliciacan liked this post

  2. #22
    Junior Member aliciacan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2014
    MBTI
    ESTJ
    Enneagram
    136 sp
    Socionics
    LSE
    Posts
    25

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by paisley1 View Post
    Lots of ESFJ's and ESTJ's in the world, but since it's akin to a unicorn sighting on MBTI websites, WELCOME! (us INFJ's are the opposite.)

    So, uh.....

    Did you know that ESTJ's are the most intuitive of the sense thinkers?

    I guess I'll just ask the question on everybody's mind:

    Since it's so rare for your types to find interest in MBTI, what chain of events led you to this website?
    It went something (okay, exactly) like this:

    A friend posted MBTI results to Facebook a couple of weeks ago. I decided to take the test because I had just finished a long programming assignment and wanted to do something to reset my mind. I got ISTJ, which I questioned because I had always gotten INTJ in the past. So that began my quest to finding out more about how these test actually work, etc.

    I'm pretty active on Reddit, and found the MBTI community there, which led me to an informative post about functions. That then started my functions binge, and ultimately the conclusion that Si is not my dominant function and realizing that most online tests are merely a jumping off point. I looked up all the possible combinations of my functions, ane couldn't disagree with a single part of the ESTJ descriptions.

    Having been conditioned by the online tests that there's no way I could be so strongly an introvert but have an extroverted leading function, I decided I wanted to read what some actual ESTJs had to say. This forum has been the most helpful so far, so I decided to join and continue my observations more actively. This has turned into sort of hobby of mine, and I'm always all in or not involved at all, haha.

  3. #23
    Junior Member aliciacan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2014
    MBTI
    ESTJ
    Enneagram
    136 sp
    Socionics
    LSE
    Posts
    25

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Showbread View Post
    Great plan. I'll tag along and make cookies.

    But seriously, welcome! ESFJs are also pretty scarce around here so I am looking forward to having another ESxJ around!
    My mom is an ESFJ and we get along great. I mean, how could we not, you're wonderful people. I'm a little bit surprised they're so rare on MBTI boards. My mom was the only person in my family to indulge my quest and even started testing her friends! My ENFJ husband and ISTJ brother (he lives with us) were getting very annoyed with me, haha.

  4. #24
    Junior Member aliciacan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2014
    MBTI
    ESTJ
    Enneagram
    136 sp
    Socionics
    LSE
    Posts
    25

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard View Post
    There's a number 1's on here, but you're the only other 1-3-6 I have come across. Further, an sp at that.
    I feel like I have a lot to live up to now, haha. It was actually the negative aspects of being a 136 that solidified it for me. Paranoia can creep up on me at times.

  5. #25
    climb on Showbread's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2013
    MBTI
    ESFJ
    Enneagram
    3w2 so/sp
    Posts
    2,332

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by aliciacan View Post
    My mom is an ESFJ and we get along great. I mean, how could we not, you're wonderful people. I'm a little bit surprised they're so rare on MBTI boards. My mom was the only person in my family to indulge my quest and even started testing her friends! My ENFJ husband and ISTJ brother (he lives with us) were getting very annoyed with me, haha.
    Hah, yeah, my ENFJ roommate gets sick of the typology talk pretty quick. Thankfully my INFP roommate is usually happy to indulge. But, she refuses to join the forum because there are too many other INFP 4s around.
    Friends, waffles, work

    "The problem is, when you depend on a substitute for love, you can never get enough" - Louis Cozolino

    3w2 6w7 1w2
    *Gryffindor*


  6. #26
    Senior Member paisley1's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    MBTI
    INFJ
    Enneagram
    8w9
    Socionics
    EIE None
    Posts
    369

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by aliciacan View Post
    It went something (okay, exactly) like this:

    A friend posted MBTI results to Facebook a couple of weeks ago. I decided to take the test because I had just finished a long programming assignment and wanted to do something to reset my mind. I got ISTJ, which I questioned because I had always gotten INTJ in the past. So that began my quest to finding out more about how these test actually work, etc.

    I'm pretty active on Reddit, and found the MBTI community there, which led me to an informative post about functions. That then started my functions binge, and ultimately the conclusion that Si is not my dominant function and realizing that most online tests are merely a jumping off point. I looked up all the possible combinations of my functions, ane couldn't disagree with a single part of the ESTJ descriptions.

    Having been conditioned by the online tests that there's no way I could be so strongly an introvert but have an extroverted leading function, I decided I wanted to read what some actual ESTJs had to say. This forum has been the most helpful so far, so I decided to join and continue my observations more actively. This has turned into sort of hobby of mine, and I'm always all in or not involved at all, haha.
    So this is just recent? Cool, so now for clarity's sake, you researched MBTI, and your interest is peeked by the world of the functions. Nice! All of the ESTJ's that I know, most of my old bosses, seemed to be loners that were extroverts. The J need for closure I think keeps ESTJ's interested in researching more about their type and related personality tests. The SP's are even more rare on MBTI! From my experience ESTJ's don't usually write in paragraph form, usually point form, so well done . It's interesting that you got INTJ a lot before, as both ESTJ's and INTJ's use Extroverted Thinking (ET or grounded logic) in a similarly willful way, however, the intuitions are used very differently and were probably misleading. ET IS EN, the first three functions of the ESTJ, can easily be confused for IN ET, the first two functions of the INTJ, if you don't know what the person is thinking. IN compared to IS with EN, are both collecting information and connecting it, it's just IN in the first order looks directly at all the points of connection on the web simultaneously, whereas IS with EN is looking at a few and blasting that information outward instead of using it to create more connections and imploding inward. ET is such an all consuming force to both INTJ's and ESTJ's, that I'm not really surprised by the mix up, and both types tend to be loners off by themselves as well. The tell tale is Introverted Sensing of course, the documentation of a perfect thing being the proper and right way, that really separates those types, especially when it comes to interpreting hidden meaning, they couldn't be further apart.

    Does serialized television annoy you as much as your male counterparts? How often do you lose track of time playing puzzle games? Does sarcasm and rhetoric elude you too? Will you ever find it in your heart to be inefficient?

    I've been interested in the types since the late 90's and have been active on many now defunct mbti websites, but found this site about 5 years ago, along with many others, simply to hone my understanding. I can't shut off my interest.
    "Truth stands true, independent of whether you agree with it or not."

    "Don't let what matters least, matter most."

    Extroverted (E) 50% Introverted (I) 50%
    Intuitive (N) 62.5% Sensing (S) 37.5%
    Feeling (F) 51.61% Thinking (T) 48.39%
    Judging (J) 51.52% Perceiving (P) 48.48%
    8w9 EIE

  7. #27
    Junior Member aliciacan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2014
    MBTI
    ESTJ
    Enneagram
    136 sp
    Socionics
    LSE
    Posts
    25

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by paisley1 View Post
    So this is just recent? Cool, so now for clarity's sake, you researched MBTI, and your interest is peeked by the world of the functions. Nice! All of the ESTJ's that I know, most of my old bosses, seemed to be loners that were extroverts. The J need for closure I think keeps ESTJ's interested in researching more about their type and related personality tests. The SP's are even more rare on MBTI! From my experience ESTJ's don't usually write in paragraph form, usually point form, so well done .

    Does serialized television annoy you as much as your male counterparts? How often do you lose track of time playing puzzle games? Does sarcasm and rhetoric elude you too? Will you ever find it in your heart to be inefficient?

    I've been interested in the types since the late 90's and have been active on many now defunct mbti websites, but found this site about 5 years ago, along with many others, simply to hone my understanding. I can't shut off my interest.
    Exactly! I learned about it in high school when one of my friends was taking a psychology class and she tested our circle of friends. I had another brief encounter with it when I was writing a college paper about introversion because I cited Carl Jung's Psychological Types, but I never actually read the whole thing. It's on my to-read list now though. I was always draw to personality tests because I feel like a bit of a contraction sometimes. The "loners that are extroverts" bit describes me fairly well. I do need the introvert's alone/recharge time, but I also really enjoy talking things through with people.

    Does serialized television annoy you as much as your male counterparts?
    I find them frustrating, mostly because they tend to have really unsatisfactory endings and once I've started watching I NEED to know what happens. Lost is a perfect example of this. In retrospect, I hate it, but I watched it until the end. If they are really well done, like Game of Thrones, I do like them. I am mostly drawn to the characters on that show and not so much the serialized aspect though. I did also read the series, so it takes the mystery out... so perhaps that isn't a great example.

    How often do you lose track of time playing puzzle games?
    All the time. I actually find this frustrating too because I feel very unproductive, haha. I save my "fun" time for the end of the day when I don't feel bad for getting lost in what I'm doing.

    Does sarcasm and rhetoric elude you too?
    Not at all! Is that a common ESTJ thing? If it is, that probably has a lot to do with my family though, everyone is very sarcastic. I have a pretty deadpan sense of humor myself. Sarcasm actually helps me take what I see as faults in other people less seriously. When I was younger, I would try to make them see the light, but now a sarcastic remark and moving on because it isn't worth the effort is my usual go-to. I've worked hard on being more patient and understanding of those who aren't like me.

    Will you ever find it in your heart to be inefficient?
    I've definitely relaxed more in recent years, especially since having my son. I can better prioritize what is worth the effort and energy to me, since I have a lot less time and everything takes a lot more planning (not that I mind that part). Still a no though, if I commit, it has to be perfect. Even when I was younger and worked retail alongside a lot of slackers... I knew I wasn't getting paid more by giving it my all, but I still had to do it.

  8. #28
    Junior Member aliciacan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2014
    MBTI
    ESTJ
    Enneagram
    136 sp
    Socionics
    LSE
    Posts
    25

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Showbread View Post
    Hah, yeah, my ENFJ roommate gets sick of the typology talk pretty quick. Thankfully my INFP roommate is usually happy to indulge. But, she refuses to join the forum because there are too many other INFP 4s around.
    You gotta find the right people to talk to about it, that's for sure. Can I ask you what the Johari and Nohari links I see in lots of people's signatures are all about?

  9. #29
    Senior Member paisley1's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    MBTI
    INFJ
    Enneagram
    8w9
    Socionics
    EIE None
    Posts
    369

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by aliciacan View Post
    Exactly! I learned about it in high school when one of my friends was taking a psychology class and she tested our circle of friends. I had another brief encounter with it when I was writing a college paper about introversion because I cited Carl Jung's Psychological Types, but I never actually read the whole thing. It's on my to-read list now though. I was always draw to personality tests because I feel like a bit of a contraction sometimes. The "loners that are extroverts" bit describes me fairly well. I do need the introvert's alone/recharge time, but I also really enjoy talking things through with people.

    Does serialized television annoy you as much as your male counterparts?
    I find them frustrating, mostly because they tend to have really unsatisfactory endings and once I've started watching I NEED to know what happens. Lost is a perfect example of this. In retrospect, I hate it, but I watched it until the end. If they are really well done, like Game of Thrones, I do like them. I am mostly drawn to the characters on that show and not so much the serialized aspect though. I did also read the series, so it takes the mystery out... so perhaps that isn't a great example.

    How often do you lose track of time playing puzzle games?
    All the time. I actually find this frustrating too because I feel very unproductive, haha. I save my "fun" time for the end of the day when I don't feel bad for getting lost in what I'm doing.

    Does sarcasm and rhetoric elude you too?
    Not at all! Is that a common ESTJ thing? If it is, that probably has a lot to do with my family though, everyone is very sarcastic. I have a pretty deadpan sense of humor myself. Sarcasm actually helps me take what I see as faults in other people less seriously. When I was younger, I would try to make them see the light, but now a sarcastic remark and moving on because it isn't worth the effort is my usual go-to. I've worked hard on being more patient and understanding of those who aren't like me.

    Will you ever find it in your heart to be inefficient?
    I've definitely relaxed more in recent years, especially since having my son. I can better prioritize what is worth the effort and energy to me, since I have a lot less time and everything takes a lot more planning (not that I mind that part). Still a no though, if I commit, it has to be perfect. Even when I was younger and worked retail alongside a lot of slackers... I knew I wasn't getting paid more by giving it my all, but I still had to do it.
    Those questions were rhetorical stereotypes meant to make you laugh. The joy of knowing the types!

    I updated my previous post with a little more insight on the relationship between INTJ's and ESTJ's for you to consider.
    "Truth stands true, independent of whether you agree with it or not."

    "Don't let what matters least, matter most."

    Extroverted (E) 50% Introverted (I) 50%
    Intuitive (N) 62.5% Sensing (S) 37.5%
    Feeling (F) 51.61% Thinking (T) 48.39%
    Judging (J) 51.52% Perceiving (P) 48.48%
    8w9 EIE

  10. #30
    Junior Member aliciacan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2014
    MBTI
    ESTJ
    Enneagram
    136 sp
    Socionics
    LSE
    Posts
    25

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by paisley1 View Post
    Those questions were more stereotypes meant to make you laugh. The joy of knowing the types!

    I updated my previous post with a little more insight on the relationship between INTJ's and ESTJ's for you to consider.
    Well.... that went right over my head. I assumed, given the forum and your interest, they were serious questions, haha. Thanks for the further insight! It actually does make a lot of sense that I would have gotten that result. I think it also depends on when you ask me. If I'm not in a great place (stressed, etc.) I tend to draw in and neglect my Ne.

Similar Threads

  1. [ESTJ] What do you think of ESTJs?
    By JediM05 in forum The SJ Guardhouse (ESFJ, ISFJ, ESTJ, ISTJ)
    Replies: 177
    Last Post: 11-15-2013, 11:18 PM
  2. [ESTJ] ESTJ Father, looking for your opinions.
    By Angry Ayrab in forum The SJ Guardhouse (ESFJ, ISFJ, ESTJ, ISTJ)
    Replies: 42
    Last Post: 07-31-2011, 09:13 PM
  3. [ESTJ] ESTJs: criticism and imagination.
    By JediM05 in forum The SJ Guardhouse (ESFJ, ISFJ, ESTJ, ISTJ)
    Replies: 52
    Last Post: 02-04-2009, 11:05 PM
  4. [ESTJ] ESTJs - Trivial Pursuit
    By INTJMom in forum The SJ Guardhouse (ESFJ, ISFJ, ESTJ, ISTJ)
    Replies: 22
    Last Post: 09-24-2008, 01:05 PM
  5. [ESTJ] Help with my ESTJ father-in-law
    By Griffi97 in forum The SJ Guardhouse (ESFJ, ISFJ, ESTJ, ISTJ)
    Replies: 16
    Last Post: 02-14-2008, 12:03 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
Single Sign On provided by vBSSO